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delta machine
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Posted by: @ditton-donkey

Love it on here, people say we are a lower team and expect us to be world beaters

ok we had a great start which probably flattered us and expectations were raised

we should have beaten Newcastle, but we are bereft of attacking ideas, that game was like watching Widnes of old playing a current depleted Widnes side - boring as shite

so the calls for change -to what exactly ? 

we sign up 5 Aussies ? With what and where from ?

get real we are in for a hard season - I am in for the long haul, hopefully most are 

onwards and sideways !

Since when has anyone said we should be world beater's donkey dick? I think it's totally acceptable though to at least be bettering the Batleys Dewsburys Sheffield's and York's of this world.

The calls for change is because Simon finningan is enept and out of his depth in many obvious area's of our games.. I personally think these group of players are better than what we are seeing out there on the pitch and a temporary or permanent coach is needed to rescue this season.. we can't afford to write another season off.

Get real about what you sarcastic twix?.. just because we question what's going on doesn't mean giving in.. me and my daughter's season ticket will be renewed year on year.. adiós 🤘

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Posted : 17/04/2022 7:12 pm
Pascal
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We going to Pot Finnigan is a shite coach his decision making is atrocious. Fozzard only interchange hooker and not a 80 mins player. Sod off Finnigan your useless.

Finnigan needs to go Pinkies more often to get his Mojo. 

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Posted : 17/04/2022 7:32 pm
Pascal
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Why Finnigan bring back Owens too soon when Roby was not playing that badly. Owens looked very unfit and this Pascal horney devil is not impressed. 

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Posted : 17/04/2022 7:40 pm
Royston Vasey
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@cuerdley-viking Not really defeatist is it when the team keep getting beaten. Sounds more like realism to me.

Replacing SF with MS (who has never coached a first grade team to the best of my knowledge) won’t change the lack of forwards and will just result in people shouting for his head too in about 2 months.

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Posted : 17/04/2022 8:06 pm
delta machine
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Posted by: @royston-vasey

@cuerdley-viking Not really defeatist is it when the team keep getting beaten. Sounds more like realism to me.

Replacing SF with MS (who has never coached a first grade team to the best of my knowledge) won’t change the lack of forwards and will just result in people shouting for his head too in about 2 months.

Thing is Royston my old treacle I'd rather have one of Pascals regular punts from pinkie's than have this turnip in charge any longer..

Surely there is a coach out of work at the moment that would at least see the season out for us? Anyone got hendos number? 

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Posted : 18/04/2022 2:55 am
Royston Vasey
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@delta-machine And the money to pay him ? Or do you reckon he’ll do it for free ?

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Posted : 18/04/2022 2:57 am
delta machine
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Posted by: @royston-vasey

@delta-machine And the money to pay him ? Or do you reckon he’ll do it for free ?

It's up to the club to have these contingencies in place or they should resign.. stick with this turnip and you'll notice more and more fans disappear and lose money hand over foot.. and those supporters never come back.. pricey Shaw and Roger the Dodger etc.. over to you. 😄

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Posted : 18/04/2022 3:13 am
Royston Vasey
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@delta-machine I was there in the 1960’s when the average crowd fell to be between 2k and 3k so I have an understanding about fans drifting away (and then coming back).

The game is about money these days and we don’t have any.

We have the coach and squad we can afford.

The problem was that the small amount of money we had hasn’t been spent wisely. Not only that but spending the little we had also means we haven’t got any more to spend at the moment.

Getting rid of the coach, which is one of the usual annual suggestions in recent years, is probably not financially viable and the type of coach you want wouldn’t be affordable anyway, and that’s assuming that they wanted to coach us in the first place.

We have to make do with what we have, which isn’t an appealing prospect. Who knows if I win the lottery in the next week or two …….

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Posted : 18/04/2022 5:46 am
delta machine
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Posted by: @royston-vasey

@delta-machine I was there in the 1960’s when the average crowd fell to be between 2k and 3k so I have an understanding about fans drifting away (and then coming back).

The game is about money these days and we don’t have any.

We have the coach and squad we can afford.

The problem was that the small amount of money we had hasn’t been spent wisely. Not only that but spending the little we had also means we haven’t got any more to spend at the moment.

Getting rid of the coach, which is one of the usual annual suggestions in recent years, is probably not financially viable and the type of coach you want wouldn’t be affordable anyway, and that’s assuming that they wanted to coach us in the first place.

We have to make do with what we have, which isn’t an appealing prospect. Who knows if I win the lottery in the next week or two …….

Nice sentiments Roy.. but money didn't stop tim sheen's from joining us.. 

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Posted : 18/04/2022 5:51 am
Royston Vasey
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@delta-machine That’s true, but I’m not sure what that has to do with getting rid of SF. All it means is that, at the time, we had the money to hire Sheens. When he left we had the money to replace Him. If SF de ides to walk awa and we don’t need to pay off his contract or compensation then the money we spend on SF could, in theory be spent on a replacement.

if we sack him we would have to pay him compensation which would hamper us in terms of what we could afford for a new coach. Which brings us full circle - with a shortage of money should we chose to sack him, we aren’t’t going to be able to afford the coach you, me and everybody else would like.

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Posted : 18/04/2022 5:57 am
delta machine
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Posted by: @royston-vasey

@delta-machine That’s true, but I’m not sure what that has to do with getting rid of SF. All it means is that, at the time, we had the money to hire Sheens. When he left we had the money to replace Him. If SF de ides to walk awa and we don’t need to pay off his contract or compensation then the money we spend on SF could, in theory be spent on a replacement.

if we sack him we would have to pay him compensation which would hamper us in terms of what we could afford for a new coach. Which brings us full circle - with a shortage of money should we chose to sack him, we aren’t’t going to be able to afford the coach you, me and everybody else would like.

The crux of it all.is that the club decided to to go from an ex NRL world cup winning coach.. to a cheap option with hardly any head coach experience .. one extreme to another.. and now it's killing us.. this useless board have to find a way around removing finningan and finding some way to salvage this season before it goes tits up

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Posted : 18/04/2022 7:02 am
Cuerdley Viking
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You can, to some extent understand the current owners paranoid about previous regimes. But, trying to run the club rummaging around in the pound shop will only end one way, and that's why we are nosediving right now. Inept coach, 'has been' players and some who will never cut it 

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Posted : 18/04/2022 7:58 am
Royston Vasey
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@cuerdley-viking We’ve been nose-diving for years, this time probably since about the the end of the first year of the Steve O’Connor era when he started handing out jobs to the boys and pinned his faith on Mr Rule.

We haven’t got to where we are because of a shortage of funds this season. Money has been in short supply for nearly 30 years. There is no quick or easy solution and We are just doing this year on the field what we have done for the last three or four years. Depressing but true.

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Posted : 18/04/2022 8:21 am
Mick George
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Posted by: @royston-vasey

@cuerdley-viking Not really defeatist is it when the team keep getting beaten. Sounds more like realism to me.

Replacing SF with MS (who has never coached a first grade team to the best of my knowledge) won’t change the lack of forwards and will just result in people shouting for his head too in about 2 months.

Changing coach will not bring in the props we should of recruited but changing coach could bring the best out of the players we have. My idea of having Smithy coach is firstly his vast of experience of the game and secondly the unfortunate cheapness of adding coaching duties to his playing side.

IMO this is the only way we can afford to pay off Finnegan and pay a replacement, your good self or I could probably inspire the team more than our current coach  but more importantly we need a change NOW.

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Posted : 18/04/2022 8:41 am
Sinbad
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Who knows what's in Finngans contract ? Why is it assumed he would be entitled to a big pay off. Anyone with any sense when hiring a new coach would put some stipulations and clauses in the agreement regarding results and performance.Only the top coaches who are in demand hold the aces in negotiations,not the new starters with no experience.

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Posted : 18/04/2022 8:47 am
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