The minutes from last week's meeting;
Last Thursday, the Fan Ambassadors met with the Club Chairman, Stu Murphy, regarding recent events of the club.
Since Tim Holmes announcing he was vacating the General Manager post a number of questions from the Fan Base, have been raised on various social platforms.
SM gave a glowing tribute to Tim's tenure, the Club did not want him to leave, but he said that the Board & Tim's views on the role of the General Manager did not align, and hence why there is a current Vacancy for the role. The Club view the role as a day to day management role which includes clerical and governance, rather than an emphasis of Social Media, and other differences that are confidential between the Board and TH. The Board did offer an alternative “customised” role to TH.
The FA voiced their disappointment at Tim leaving, and voiced their opinion that the 'Feel Good' Matchday experience of season 2026, is in danger of 'falling off a cliff' without Tim's drive. SM assured us that this, hopefully, will not happen. It was brought to SM that the Club missed a massive opportunity to engage with Fans for the recent Doncaster game, as it followed the England WC game that kicked off at 5pm, before our 7.30pm kick-off. When I arrived at 7pm, the Bridge Suite was virtually empty, and the football was on the Big Screens. The rest of the night was a damp squib, poor attendance, no tannoy, no DJ, no scoreboard or game clock. Not to mention the result. SM mentioned that the lack of scoreboard/clock was because it was switched off due to the scaffolding, though it was on against Oldham as the scaffold was still low enough for it to be seen. The ongoing issues with the PA system have been addressed with the external contractor and the Council have been pushing this. All testing was doing on the day of the game and it was off again in the evening.
It was raised to SM what was the direction of the Club re; SL ambitions or are we just happy to be a steady Championship Club? Where are we with the 6 year plan (IMG or Promotion) or have we given up on the idea of SL?
The 6 year plan has now changed considerably and effectively needs re-writing from scratch, as the RFL/IMG keep tweaking the pillars, the latest tweak was announced in January but only 2 days ago the club were notified of potential changes again. Certain existing SL Clubs made moves immediately to adjust their IMG rating, which now doesn't guarantee London Broncos elevation to the top table. So our hands are tied, until we see the way the Championship/London 2027 pans out before we can put a realistic plan in place. But yes the aim is to attain SL status eventually.
The future of the 1895 Cup and the possible return of Summer Bash was raised. It was asked if the Championship Clubs got their heads together and approached the RFL, would they give us our own Mini Magic weekend. SM said their is the potential for it to happen as the RFL & RL Commercial are possibly going to allocate a Championship Commercial Official (at a cost to all clubs) which will give the Clubs better representation at HQ. So the possibility of the 1895 & MM being a 'thing' going forward.
With the announcement of a new TV deal imminent, it was asked what filters down to the Championship. SM said 9% of all monies come down to us, to clarify, that 9% is shared out between the 20 Clubs. It is not necessarily equally shared, that is for the Clubs to get around the table and thrash out.
Reserved seating; This has been a bug bear in the South Stand for a while, with Away Fans sitting in Home Fans reserved seats, and the lack of action from the Stewards. Fans select their seats when they buy their Season Tickets for a reason, they don't need a row on trying to take their seat. SM said there is a new security company in place under the council and thing have improved and hopefully will continue to improve going forward. A couple of times recently the Away teams coaching/stats staff have plonked themselves in my seat. SM said the Away Team are allocated the 4 rows behind the Away dugout ONLY! Not on the back row of the Gold Section. For some games they may also use the gantry or behind the sticks.
HBC are responsible for the painting/upkeep of their stadium so we don't know how long the scaffold will be up on the West Stand (so no scoreboard, it will be turned on for the Barrow and Salford games hopefully still visible in parts).
FA heard that the North Stand is next so when does this impact us? SM confirmed that no works schedule is set for any stand apart from the West as it is. HBC will provide a schedule to WV asap as it has been requested and therefore we can try to minimise disruption with fixture scheduling or seating areas.
Don't shoot the messenger.
Paulie xx
Thanks for the update, we need to be firmer with the council. I can't believe as sitting tenants we didn't know the exact work schedule for the scaffold/painting before it started, we shouldn't have to ask after the fact
It sounds like because the council own the ground they can do what they want, and don’t have to consult the club about anything they do, we just have to grin and bear it.
The IMG ratings will obviously keep changing until London get in, the interesting thing is seeing who gets relegated to make room for them
It’s hard to see how we will get anymore of the 9% of the championship money, as I imagine the poorer clubs will want as much money as they’re getting now, so won’t vote for a reduction, do the better ( top 8-10 clubs would be outvoted on trying to get a bigger share of the money.
I don’t think many championship fans would support a mini magic weekend, I think the last(?) Summer Bash at headingley, there was about 2/3,000 fans there with no atmosphere and nothing to do between games.
I hope we can find another manager as good as Tim has been. With it being a paid public job, can we find out what the duties of the manager are, as SM said theirs and Tim’s idea of what it entailed were different.
Thanks Paulie , there seems to be a lot of it's not our fault lines from the board but no actual solutions to any problems, surely turning down investment which could be used to increase img scores as salary cap stops input to player funds
it would be nice to hear them be proactive rather than reactive but in scale of state of the game and rfl it hardly matters
thanks again Paulie
I once had a meeting with Jimmy Rule, he blamed the council and everyone else. Just saying, and the club also told the fans nothing as it was a closed shop, sound familiar.
@prisoner it does have a familiar feel but at least the board aren't robbing us blind , just lack ambition,we restart the 6 year plan in two years time 🙄😂😂
@vikingfox71 clearly questions weren’t asked about turning down investment so how how can you actually know other than one person saying they turned it down?
@farnworth-viking to be fair the job description was public on the one Tim took and there was a lot in there about governance and contracts etc.. I was actually surprised TH went for it as I remember thinking god this JD is boring as fudge for anyone
@scouseviking55 obviously no matter what is said you side with the board so no point even discussing anymore
but if you can't see local investment by people who know the town and local businesses is not as good if not better than a man the other side of the world 🌍 with no connections then I hope you enjoy your very slowly sinking ship while it's here
@vikingfox71 I definitely don’t. I’ve called them and the club before for things they do wrong.
my point again is, other than a few people suggesting it or posting about it on social media, where is the proof? I do think the question should have been asked about investment if it wasn’t to get an answer
Confirmed the 6 year plan doesnt exist then. Sounds like we need a person/people to get hold of things and drive the club forward.
@dan1 it’s really poor from the board that as soon as they knew the old 6 year plan was no longer viable, they didn’t tell fans. That’s caused so much confusion and disassociation with some of the fanbase because no one knew what stage of the original ‘6 year plan’ we were actually in
It was muted, and the answer never changes. The Club are always open to offers of investment. Anyone interested just need to approach them. There's nothing new to report on this. If they choose to turn down potential investment, that is nothing to do with anyone not interested in investing. But it would be nice to know why.@vikingfox71 clearly questions weren’t asked about turning down investment so how how can you actually know other than one person saying they turned it down?
The criteria for a place on the Board is in the region of £30-40k, and even then you would have to be checked by the RFL (criminal background, social media history etc).
Paulie xx
@pauliewalnuts agreed it would be nice to know why! Was no reason given? Or have I misread the first part that it was muted?
@scouseviking55 Any insider info that was entrusted(not that there was much) is not for the FAs to share as its personal between the Board and A.Horabin (I presume that is the investment you are on about). If any of those parties would like to reveal any reasons, that's up to them.
I will say that the day after the meeting, Kev Buck resigned from his role as a FA, but will help to keep generating Season Ticket sales for the Community teams, as he did this season, raising in the region of £6k for the Club. On behalf of the other FAs, I'd like to thank Kev for all he has done, and nobody can ever criticise his passion for WVRLFC.
Paulie xx
