@mick-george - I was assuming he had taken on extra responsibilites and would combine the roles for admitteldy (and rightly) more money. If we go out and appoint a new assistant coach then I'm wrong.
The Job Description reads like the holder having a general overview to make sure that injured players are dealt with properly, rehab maintained, juniors encouraged etc etc rather that the Coach trying to do that and prepare the first team for action.
Probably more important during a playing season than at present but understandable.
Lots of non jobs in RL now, especially SL.Wigan's coaching staff is eye watering.They have, amongst others,management and leadership director, head of performance and head of analysis (I kid you not).Mind boggling.These are invented roles which don't really exist.And things such as nutrition could be done by a freelancer coming in one day per week instead employing someone full time on the pay roll.And they complain about reduced funding from Sky.
https://www.wiganwarriors.com/teams/coaching-staff
At the end of the day, if we are languishing near the bottom after Easter then SF will be going, regardless of the job descriptions of ROB and BB.
At the end of the day, if we are languishing near the bottom after Easter then SF will be going, regardless of the job descriptions of ROB and BB.
On the other hand, if we are sitting proudly at the top end of the table, we may well be actually praising the coach and the chief executive for his foresight in strengthening the coaching staff. I would guess that we have not got the largest coaching team in the Championship or the most costly.
I suspect that there are some posters who will be forever critical of Finney and Finnegan, even if we finished top of the league and won the play-offs. I guess the criticism then would be that they do not have SL experience or something else to criticise.
There is absolutely no chance we finish anywhere near the top of the table.
However 4th-6th is attainable and is what we should be aiming for IMO.
If we have a good season all power to the changes and the management, if we don't they will be in for criticism: that's the way of sport!
I really think we should be aiming for the top 4, but finishing in the play-off positions is a must.
Leigh have lost a few players and always seem to implode. I don't think Featherstone will be as strong next year. Newcastle are making a push for SL, but perhaps need a bit more time; and I am sure that we can compete with the likes of York, Halifax and Bradford.
It will certainly be a competitive league and we need to be ready for the start of the season. That is why I totally agree with strengthening the coaching team. Maybe another prop or two would help, providing any suitable players are available.
At the end of the day, if we are languishing near the bottom after Easter then SF will be going, regardless of the job descriptions of ROB and BB.
I wouldn’t be too sure about that CJ. I’m not too sure that we’d be expected to finish top half with the squad assembled. Maybe the aim will be 6th, but there’ll be no sweat until it’s mathematically impossible to reach the target.
To be fair Winny, I wouldn't say I was personally over confident either but if you listen to SF's interview with James from a few weeks ago my impression was that improvement was expected and so surely that means that the internal expectation would be to finish higher than 8th. This is without the possibility of having to finish Top 7/8 for 2nd tier.
FWIW I think that Featherstone and Leigh will be strong, Halifax have recruited well and then you have teams like Bradford and Newcastle who will invest. But through good coaching and teamwork both Batley and Whitehaven finished higher than us. If they can finish in the Top 6 why can't Widnes?
At the end of the day, if we are languishing near the bottom after Easter then SF will be going, regardless of the job descriptions of ROB and BB.
I wouldn’t be too sure about that CJ. I’m not too sure that we’d be expected to finish top half with the squad assembled. Maybe the aim will be 6th, but there’ll be no sweat until it’s mathematically impossible to reach the target.
A few clubs may have over-stretched themselves assuming that the 2x 10s system was coming in to play.
From what I hear, Widnes have played it sensibly and within their means and are sustainable even in spite of the central funding cuts.
The beauty of the Championship at the moment is that it is very difficult to call now - no one would have predicted Batley and Whitehaven to finish top 6 last season, yet they did.
Likewise, York were talked up as possible Super League contenders yet finished below us and have now just handed their new coach a three-year deal, when quite a few of our fans wanted our coach out even though we finished above them!
As far as I know nobody knows yet what the Championship share of the central fund will be so I guess that there will be a few hoping for a decent injection of cash.
Looks to me as if we have gone for a young squad, fit and fast. The signing of BB is another indication that we recognised the necessity of putting a fit side on the field for every game. We are a much deeper squad that last season and hopefully that will reflect in our results.
Teams with backers maybe able to cash in by being fulltime but that option isn't open to us. Whether that is part of our 4 year plan who knows?
Thinking of past posts we have had criticism for lack of ambition, lack spending, overpricing of tickets but need for bigger signings and Fanzones, but no need for full time coach, CEO, or fitness/performance managers!!!!
Who'd be a Board member????
That’s obviously true, but from what I understand they didn’t give up trying when they were losing games.
On the other hand, quite a few posters on this forum (including me) can’t understand why we seemed to lose heart, gave up and threw in the towel.
I thought he spoke well at his first interview on the club site.
He seems committed and to like our squad.
I look forward to watching a fitter team next season!
I cannot see a full time role for a strength and conditioning coach at a part time club. I could understand someone coming in pre season and giving individual plans to players but we only train together for a few hours per week so it is down to the players to put in the hard work in their own time.
Is it a full time role ? there should be no full time roles in a part time set up from players up to the CEO.
I understand your train of thought @mick-george, but we really do need FT office personnel. Being contactable, 7 days a week is imperative if we are to shape ourselves off the field.
Surely the players need access to the S&C coaches whenever they train. Do they, even if PT, train most days? Do they do 1 on 1's with the training staff? I don't think it's just Tues & Thurs nights like in the 70s & 80's.
Maybe someone can shine some light on what the requirements are of BB & R O'B.
Paulie xx