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 CJ91
(@cj91)
Noble Member

Jewitt, Cook and Clough in for the Twins and Moran is an upgrade for me.

Tyrer into the centre has experience over Roby and Spedding.

Johnson was a good winger, replaced by young lads.

Lawton in for Wilde is a downgrade IMO.

Finnegan in as coach is an unknown quantity.

We need a backup hooker, although Else is being trained there and maybe the likes of Lyons could have a run there.

All in all if we are talking 1-3 in the table, I very much doubt it.

However, if we are talking 6th for the Play-Offs, then that has to be the minimum acceptable IMO.

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Posted : 27/12/2020 7:02 pm
(@a-cape)
Reputable Member

Unless there is at least 4-5 decent signings, we are at our level. Mid table championship kak. This board so far has talked the talk (albeit via the proverbial wage thief Finney) but now, it’s time to show us fans their true intentions.

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Posted : 27/12/2020 9:59 pm
(@wrlfcefc1989)
Estimable Member

Unless there is at least 4-5 decent signings, we are at our level. Mid table championship kak. This board so far has talked the talk (albeit via the proverbial wage thief Finney) but now, it’s time to show us fans their true intention

 

Not often I agree with Capey but I do this time. Jewitt, Cook and Clough maybe an upgrade on the twins and Moran but I cant see them playing many games between them due to their age. Jewitt was released by KR due to injuries and wont have played for two years by the time he puts a shirt on, plus jury is out on Lawton, and Grady has work commitments. We will be lucky to get 6th spot and I'm starting to think that the lack of investment is why Sheens left.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 8:02 am
(@spike-island-90)
Honorable Member

I am not too sure people understand the gravity of this unprecedented situation. 12 months ago we almost lost RL in Widnes for an eternity since then any sound minded people would expect Widnes to be extremely fiscally conservative to avoid a repeat. This is all compounded by the fact that, revenue from every element of the club is down significantly.

If the money was there and it was low risk then we will and would sign players. But what is the point of throwing money at promotion and risking the clubs finances on part time players.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 9:24 am
(@royston-vasey)
Honorable Member

I’m not sure either. 12 months ago we didn’t have much money at all and since then the club has had very, very little revenue coming into the club.
You have to ask the questions : were are the four or five decent signings going to come from,? How are we going to pay for them and what happens if the COVID virus adapts to the vaccine and we have a third, fourth and fifth wave of infections in 2021 ?

It would be great if we were in a position to make the signings and know we were financially secure but, for the foreseeable future, we need to ‘make do and mend’ and when it is ok to do so, get down to the ground and support the team and club.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 10:38 am
(@spike-island-90)
Honorable Member

I’m not sure either. 12 months ago we didn’t have much money at all and since then the club has had very, very little revenue coming into the club. You have to ask the questions : were are the four or five decent signings going to come from,? How are we going to pay for them and what happens if the COVID virus adapts to the vaccine and we have a third, fourth and fifth wave of infections in 2021 ? It would be great if we were in a position to make the signings and know we were financially secure but, for the foreseeable future, we need to ‘make do and mend’ and when it is ok to do so, get down to the ground and support the team and club.

 

Exactly, how many clubs will have financial trouble by this time next year? Fev and York probably will. Too many people confuse ambition with recklessness, sometimes been ambitious is also about been sustainable.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 10:57 am
(@a-cape)
Reputable Member

I certainly don’t confuse ambition with recklessness! What I am confused about it why our coach suddenly departed, especially when EVERY signing said that the draw of playing for Tim Sheens was a major draw. What I can’t understand is the deafening silence from the board.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 11:36 am
(@sandgroper)
Famed Member

Have you never heard of confidentiality? Just because you don't know doesn't make something fishy.

People do have personal matters that they don't want made public. Many, obviously not everybody, are prepared to accept the club and Tim Sheens word in good faith.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 12:09 pm
 J.Mc
(@j-mc)
Eminent Member

Totally agree

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Posted : 28/12/2020 12:27 pm
Former Chemic
(@former-chemic)
Honorable Member

In my view ACAPE is correct once again (remember the Rule thread?) by not blindly accepting the silence surrounding Tim Sheen.

Of course some matters are personal and must remain confidential but, if that’s the case why not say so?

All that is required to dispel the secrecy around his sudden departure from an important role in our club, is for a statement that it is a personal matter and not employment related.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 1:34 pm
(@spike-island-90)
Honorable Member

In my view ACAPE is correct once again (remember the Rule thread?) by not blindly accepting the silence surrounding Tim Sheen. Of course some matters are personal and must remain confidential but, if that’s the case why not say so? All that is required to dispel the secrecy around his sudden departure from an important role in our club, is for a statement that it is a personal matter and not employment related.

 

Why does it matter, why is it that in 2020 fans always cite “lack of communication” “lack of statement”, when managers and players left years ago, statements never got issued.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 1:38 pm
(@wrlfcefc1989)
Estimable Member

Exactly, how many clubs will have financial trouble by this time next year? Fev and York probably will. Too many people confuse ambition with recklessness, sometimes been ambitious is also about been sustainable.

So you are saying that all the clubs in the championship have overextended themselves but we are not because of the pandemic? Did the pandemic only affect the Vikings? We are amongst the best supported clubs in the championship and have VIQI but we aren't bringing in any quality signings or an experienced coach but lesser supported clubs are able to? People are saying we should make the play offs, but that squad doesn't look a top six championship side to me, it looks like a lack of ambition if I am being honest.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 1:46 pm
(@a-cape)
Reputable Member

In my view ACAPE is correct once again (remember the Rule thread?) by not blindly accepting the silence surrounding Tim Sheen. Of course some matters are personal and must remain confidential but, if that’s the case why not say so? All that is required to dispel the secrecy around his sudden departure from an important role in our club, is for a statement that it is a personal matter and not employment related.

Why does it matter, why is it that in 2020 fans always cite “lack of communication” “lack of statement”, when managers and players left years ago, statements never got issued.

 

Absolutely it does! Are you comparing this board with the charlatans of the past regime? If that’s the case we are in deep trouble, one the current boards first statements were that they are gonna be more transparent that the shysters! I just think that the silence speaks volumes!

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Posted : 28/12/2020 2:03 pm
(@a-cape)
Reputable Member

Exactly, how many clubs will have financial trouble by this time next year? Fev and York probably will. Too many people confuse ambition with recklessness, sometimes been ambitious is also about been sustainable. So you are saying that all the clubs in the championship have overextended themselves but we are not because of the pandemic? Did the pandemic only affect the Vikings? We are amongst the best supported clubs in the championship and have VIQI but we aren’t bringing in any quality signings or an experienced coach but lesser supported clubs are able to? People are saying we should make the play offs, but that squad doesn’t look a top six championship side to me, it looks like a lack of ambition if I am being honest.

 

I agree. It shows a complete lack of ambition!

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Posted : 28/12/2020 2:04 pm
(@bwoodviking)
Eminent Member

A Cape you talk rubbish as always (wage theif) without the likes of Finney we would be playing northwest county's.

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Posted : 28/12/2020 2:09 pm
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