Sheens obviously has more rugby knowledge in his left testicular than I have in my brain but I can’t fathom the logic of Lyons been a full back.

Most modern full backs are either speed freaks or exceptional ball runners, Lyons isn’t either. I distinctly remember, TS putting Atkins at full back at KR and it didn’t seem to work as Atkins isn’t really a “runner” and I can see many similarities between Lyons and Atkin.

Iirc TS explained it in his after match interview after our cup game. It was simply to allow Tompkins to take a break by shifting Owens to acting half/hooker. TS thought that Joe would get hammered in the pack. His comment was that they wouldn't get any change out of Jack.

1. Iirc TS explained it in his after match interview after our cup game. It was simply to allow Tompkins to take a break by shifting Owens to acting half/hooker. TS thought that Joe would get hammered in the pack. His comment was that they wouldn’t get any change out of Jack.

That must be frustrating for Joe been played out of position just to accommodate other players etc. I will say this, Joe is a solid player, he’s had more “okay” games than bad games, however, how many “wow” games has he had were he completely took the opposition apart?

Tried to find that comment but no success, might have been at a supporters night. Joe might shine better behind a harder pack,  not many halves go well behind one that isnt going forward.

In that Oldham game Joe's passing for our tries was excellent, but with Matty Smith in Joey will be learning but hopefully getting his chances.

Really pleased with the signings so far, but lots more to go. Also happy with the departures. Johnson is the 1 i would of liked to have kept, but other than that I think the rest where either due a change or just not good enough.

I can see Lyons being our first choice number 1 for 2021 and I also think O'Neil will be pushing to have 1 of the places vacated by Wilde and Leuluia.

Another big prop, a big wide running 2nd row, a 2nd hooker, a 3rd centre if Roby isnt staying. Plus a couple more.

DLM

Where do you see Jack Owens playing?

Where do you see Jack Owens playing?

Loose Forward

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Lloyd Roby signs for 2021. I make that 20 signed now.  I hope the signings to come will be second row / back row. We are very weak there depth wise.

I like Lloyd Roby, very good player.  Would be happy if he manages to get his younger brother here too soon.

The club have managed this player retention period extremely well.

Agreed the club have done well, Roby was one I could see on the Ottawa radar but a very useful player in two or three positions.

Back Row absolutely the priority now.

How about Lyons at scrum half and Smith at loose forward. IMO that would

work well and give us another ballplayer/kicker in the middle.

But Baker was more effective at loose forward and adds size in the middle.

See who else we sign and let TS do his job maybe?

I can see Owens being used at Hooker again, he is a good footballer.

As for LF, depends what we are looking for, a Sinfield type LF who is effectively a second Stand Off or a Hep Cahill type extra Prop.

Owens could potentially play a Sinfield type role but I have to say I prefer Roby at FB if Owens moves.

Agreed the club have done well, Roby was one I could see on the Ottawa radar but a very useful player in two or three positions. Back Row absolutely the priority now.

Doesn't have the right agent!!

I can see Owens being used at Hooker again, he is a good footballer. As for LF, depends what we are looking for, a Sinfield type LF who is effectively a second Stand Off or a Hep Cahill type extra Prop. Owens could potentially play a Sinfield type role but I have to say I prefer Roby at FB if Owens moves.

As you say CJ  I can see Jack playing on as he was early this year with Lyons filling in as part of his learning process. Jack seems to be a big part of tactical decision making.

(Wasn't it a coach called Wilson at Saints who watched the game from the FB position?)

I don't think that Lyons will be seen as a 'permanent' FB. Still think that Baker will be LF mainly for his size.

TS is putting together a pack that he hopes will boss the show imo. Just hope that he can find a few more weighty specimens.

As an aside I think that a lot of his selection of players depends on whether they can understand what he wants out of them!