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(@torn-sock-1)
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And yet after the absolute sh** show of Starmer/Labour it sounds like the last 2 posters will be voting for Labour come what may?

I am not calling out anyone's right to vote for whoever they want (obviously!), but the comments come across hypocritically to me.

The least popular and (One of the) worst PM's ever who is doing almost nothing well/correctly & would be getting called all sorts if he was a Tory implementing his policies.

What would he have to do/not do for some people not to vote for him out of interest?

If he survives after the Local elections he will get a lot of votes just because all of the other options are (Almost) as bad IMO.


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Posted : 22/04/2026 3:41 pm
(@spelly)
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Posted by: @torn-sock-1

And yet after the absolute sh** show of Starmer/Labour it sounds like *the last 2 posters will be voting for Labour come what may?*

I am not calling out anyone's right to vote for whoever they want (obviously!), but the comments come across hypocritically to me.

The least popular and (One of the) worst PM's ever who is doing almost nothing well/correctly & would be getting called all sorts if he was a Tory implementing his policies.

What would he have to do/not do for some people not to vote for him out of interest?

If he survives after the Local elections he will get a lot of votes just because all of the other options are (Almost) as bad IMO.

*Yes I will!*

The PM is not my favourite person, as I've mentioned previously. I didn't even vote for him in the contest when Corbyn stood down, but the party is (a lot) bigger than just Starmer.

I'm a member, have been for over half a century, and a "Vote Labour" poster will be in my window running up to polling day.

Another thing I've mentioned before is summat my boss said to me many years ago, and that was "Spelly, your loyalty is your greatest asset, and also your greatest failing!" Make of that what you will, LOL.

I expect Reform will do (very?) well in the English locals, but it'll be interesting how they'll perform north of Hadrian's Wall, and West of the Severn Bridge, with SNP, and Plaid respectively, also on the ballot paper.

Will the PM survive after that? Who knows mes amis?

Spelly.

 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 22/04/2026 4:16 pm
(@gpo1971)
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Just a reminder that Farage would have been bombing Iran recently with his Tango Overlord. Always worth remembering.

As would Badenoch but that doesn't matter as she's an irrelevance.


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Posted : 22/04/2026 4:31 pm
(@spelly)
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Reform has its first councillor in S*****d, but......

How's this for a total farce?

Yesterday (yes on a Wednesday) a by-election was held in the next ward to me, just FIFTEEN days before they go to the polls again!

Reform used a loophole called a "Niche Rule" that dates back to 1972, costing the council (using my money) £20K, to call the election!

On a turnout of less than 18%, and after a recount, they scraped in by 33 votes.

Spelly.


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Topic starter Posted : 23/04/2026 7:43 am
(@gpo1971)
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Funny, I thought they were all about addressing the issue of tax payer wastage. Silly me.


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Posted : 23/04/2026 7:56 am
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(@torn-sock-1)
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Posted by: @gpo1971

Just a reminder that Farage would have been bombing Iran recently with his Tango Overlord. Always worth remembering.

As would Badenoch but that doesn't matter as she's an irrelevance.

Equally though Starmer pushed through the Prince of Darkness to be US Ambassador without any checks & the query wasn't for links to Epstein, but worse somehow!

Not just one side trying to cozy up to the bully/clown that is Donald Trump, for balance!

Lee Anderson's line about he couldn't lie straight in bed was hilarious btw.

 


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Posted : 23/04/2026 10:10 am
(@gpo1971)
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Fire-bombing another country for no valid reason is a bit different. Granted, Starmer has a case to answer re Mandelson, but the issues are hardly comparable.

I'm no fan of Starmer and wouldn't mourn his demise. But the state of this country is not down to him. The fact that our welfare bill is out of control, 2.5m people are on the sick, 20% of under 25s won't work, the NHS is the worst its ever been, the tax burden is historically massive (which Starmer has increased), we'll be paying back COVID for generations, more and more billionaires are enjoying tax breaks, both legal and illegal migration are out of control, the cost of living is more like a cost of existing it's so high, public services are at their worst ever despite costing the most ever, the economy has flatlined for donkey's years, council services are on their knees, our environment and countryside is being vandalised for corporate profit ... the list goes on.

Starmer's not responsible for any of that, it all happened on the Tories watch (including your mate Anderson who thinks people should be able to live on a pittance, so long as it doesn't apply to him).

How anyone is going to address all that, answers on a postcard please. But it won't be Farage, he's responsible for a lot of it.


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Posted : 23/04/2026 11:04 am
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(@spelly)
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Simple yes or no please - Is anybody on here voting Reform a fortnight today?

Spelly.


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Topic starter Posted : 23/04/2026 12:16 pm
(@torn-sock-1)
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Posted by: @gpo1971

Fire-bombing another country for no valid reason is a bit different. Granted, Starmer has a case to answer re Mandelson, but the issues are hardly comparable.

I'm no fan of Starmer and wouldn't mourn his demise. But the state of this country is not down to him. The fact that our welfare bill is out of control, 2.5m people are on the sick, 20% of under 25s won't work, the NHS is the worst its ever been, the tax burden is historically massive (which Starmer has increased), we'll be paying back COVID for generations, more and more billionaires are enjoying tax breaks, both legal and illegal migration are out of control, the cost of living is more like a cost of existing it's so high, public services are at their worst ever despite costing the most ever, the economy has flatlined for donkey's years, council services are on their knees, our environment and countryside is being vandalised for corporate profit ... the list goes on.

Starmer's not responsible for any of that, it all happened on the Tories watch (including your mate Anderson who thinks people should be able to live on a pittance, so long as it doesn't apply to him).

How anyone is going to address all that, answers on a postcard please. But it won't be Farage, he's responsible for a lot of it.

True, and his decision to not just blindly follow Trump was good. His decision not to react after we were attacked was shocking though.

Anderson isn't my mate. I just thought it was a funny soundbite. Even Dianne Abbott made a good point!

How long do Labour get before anything is their fault? I don't dispute a chunk of what you're saying, but for the party that had their 1 word slogan of "Change" it's more of the same. Lots of sleaze and 'crony'ism'. Some of these problems were started before the Tories with the previous Labour government as well.

A lot of Starmer's policies are similar to what the Tory's were slagged for for years.

Starmer isn't responsible? He can propose new laws, which with his majority should/could have passed if he wasn't so useless. Has he tried to change tax laws? Building laws? I know Labour have tried pushing through huge numbers by me on Green belt land (It's a golf course).

Some of your points are linked together though. Why is the welfare bill out of control? Why are so many people on the sick? Why is our economy flatlining (Rachel from accounts)?

People always say that there are fewer and fewer people contributing to society. I don't think that's true (Or maybe only fractionally) if you're talking about a number. If you're talking %'s then absolutely. There are more people than ever in our country, yet the number actually contributing won't have changed much in the last 20 years. This will be partly down to lots of illegal immigration, but also down to the feckless 2nd/3rd generation English people as well who have never worked a day in their lives.

There is no way we should have as many people doing sweet F.A. and able to get by. That is one of the reasons why everything is on it's arse. Being signed off seems far too easy, again to avoid claims of some sort of ism.

We also have some of the highest electricity costs in the world which harms the economy as everything costs more to make, due to our mad net 0 targets. We pay Norwegians for oil, taken out of a field next door to our own which sit unused. They now have the worlds biggest sovereign wealth fund from oil profits, (after setting very strict rules about taking anything out of it) and now they earn more in investments than they do from oil. It can be done.

 


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Posted : 23/04/2026 1:27 pm
(@spelly)
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Just read an article from politics guru Sir John Curtice, and..........

In the forthcoming elections, Reform are contesting more wards than any other party, and the Greens' candidates outnumber those of the Lib Dems.

Are we heading for four "main" parties?

Speaking to my girlfriend last night, she's still undecided as to where her X will go, but..............

"it defo won't be for Reform!"

Spelly.


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Topic starter Posted : 24/04/2026 11:48 am
(@gpo1971)
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Should Widnes Vikings' stadium be sold by its council owners? - BBC News

Reform think the stadium should be sold. What a dilemma, vote Reform to kill the Chemics!! 🤣 


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Posted : 25/04/2026 6:21 pm
(@torn-sock-1)
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@gpo1971 Come on. Article link below for full context.

They said it would/should stay as the Vikings. Tory's say keep it but appoint someone to run it properly, Lib Dems not commented yet. The £1.3m allocated for repairs/upgrades this year could definitely be spent better in the borough IMO.

Here's the link to the article. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8ejz10y40po


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Posted : 27/04/2026 10:29 am
(@spelly)
Noble Member

Well, there's just over a week to go until the polling stations open, so..........

What are you thinking? I reckon, I've covered all the possibilities with......

1) Defo decided who you'll vote for? 2) Not sure yet where your X is going? 3) Undecided whether to vote or not? 4) Defo not voting at all?

Over to you!

Spelly.


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Topic starter Posted : 29/04/2026 12:42 pm
(@spideylizard)
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I live in Warrington and we're not voting this time around, we're on a different cycle.  As they are local elections I'd be looking at local issues, and not getting bogged down with the circus in Westminster


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Posted : 30/04/2026 8:06 am
(@spelly)
Noble Member

As I've mentioned before, Jan, my lady lives in New Quay, West Wales, and who should turn up there today, along with the shed-load of visitors?

The MP for Clacton!

Jan has already voted, as she has a postal one, and even though she's (almost) as left wing as am I, she said "I've gone for Plaid to keep Reform out."

Spelly.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 02/05/2026 7:23 pm
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