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gpo1971
(@gpo1971)
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There seems to be a lot of people on TV today saying that The Buffoon has got the big decisions correct.

Like what exactly?

The Government’s vaccine strategy, which the NHS delivered not the Government, proved successful. But prior to that

  • The Government sent thousands of untested care home residents back into homes resulting in tens of thousands of preventable deaths. The high court has ruled the Government complicit in these deaths
  • The Government were consistently late on delivering guidance, restrictions, an effective track-and-trace system (which was never fully delivered despite a multi-billion pound cost), and lockdowns. The British Medical Journal concluded that all this had cost lives
  • The Government’s chronic under-funding of the NHS over a number of years resulted in a complete inability to effectively manage Covid patients. There was insufficient PPE and, when the Government eventually ordered the required PPE, it was unusable as it wasn’t the right equipment
  • The Government awarded tens of billions of pounds of taxpayer’s money to firms who hadn’t even successfully tendered for services. Around 2% of the awards made actually followed the in-place competition process, others came via a new ‘VIP Lane’, that is suppliers recommended by ministers, MPs or Lords. The high court has since ruled this an unlawful practice
  • The Government’s track-and-trace process (app and supporting measures) was largely a disaster and cost tens of billions of pounds
  • The Government claim to have “got Brexit done” yet they are actively trying to change it; because it doesn’t work. Covid and Ukraine have saved Brexit’s bacon otherwise we’d really be seeing what an expensive sh*tshow it really is. The hospitality and travel industries are now feeling the pinch of the unavailability of overseas workers and that will get worse. Industries will be force to increase wage costs which will further inflate prices
  • The Government’s withdrawal from Afghanistan was labelled a ‘disaster’ and a ‘betrayal’ which has set that Country back years, so said the Foreign Affairs Committee

 

The list goes on. This is without unlawful suspensions of Parliament, dodgy refurbs, attempting to change Parliamentary rules to suit his fellow Tories corruptions (Owen Paterson) or to avoid them being accountable for breaching codes of conducts (last week to save his own skin), Russian peerage for cash, party-gate, lying to the Queen, lying to Parliament; there’s endless material here.

Only TODAY his own anti-corruption tsar has resigned saying that it is “pretty clear” that The Buffoon broke ministerial code, lied to Parliament.

 

So, all that said, I fully expect the Tories to keep him. This is what they do.

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Posted : 06/06/2022 1:18 pm
Spelly
(@spelly)
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For 211-148 Against, and under Tory party rules, there can't be another (no) confidence vote for twelve months, but...............

Tonight's result is worse for Boris, than it was when Theresa May faced summat similar, and she was history within six months, so.........

Who are we gonna see first - Santa or a new Tory leader?

As I said earlier, Partygate will remain a millstone round his neck, as long as he hangs on, and with 40% of his MPs wanting him out, I confidently predict that he'll have joined Matt Hancock on the back benches before Christmas!

Spelly

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Topic starter Posted : 06/06/2022 8:33 pm
widneslatic
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Estimable Member
Posted by: @spelly

For 211-148 Against, and under Tory party rules, there can't be another (no) confidence vote for twelve months, but...............

Tonight's result is worse for Boris, than it was when Theresa May faced summat similar, and she was history within six months, so.........

Who are we gonna see first - Santa or a new Tory leader?

As I said earlier, Partygate will remain a millstone round his neck, as long as he hangs on, and with 40% of his MPs wanting him out, I confidently predict that he'll have joined Matt Hancock on the back benches before Christmas!

Spelly

To be fair, Boris has a much larger majority than May had, and May was also blocking a mandate (Brexit) which left the country unable to move forward, and left her up poo creek without a paddle...

I wonder how Kier Starmer's investigation is going...? 🤔

I hope Durham Police are doing a thorough job.

I shan't be holding my breath though, we all know its going to end up being swept underneath a rather large fireside rug... 🥴

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Posted : 06/06/2022 9:07 pm
Spelly
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Posted by: @widneslatic
Posted by: @spelly

For 211-148 Against, and under Tory party rules, there can't be another (no) confidence vote for twelve months, but...............

Tonight's result is worse for Boris, than it was when Theresa May faced summat similar, and she was history within six months, so.........

Who are we gonna see first - Santa or a new Tory leader?

As I said earlier, Partygate will remain a millstone round his neck, as long as he hangs on, and with 40% of his MPs wanting him out, I confidently predict that he'll have joined Matt Hancock on the back benches before Christmas!

Spelly

1) To be fair, Boris has a much larger majority than May had, and May was also blocking a mandate (Brexit) which left the country unable to move forward, and left her up poo creek without a paddle...

2) I wonder how Kier Starmer's investigation is going...? 🤔

I hope Durham Police are doing a thorough job.

I shan't be holding my breath though, we all know its going to end up being swept underneath a rather large fireside rug... 🥴

1) So (in your opinion) will Boris still be in situ when Santa comes down the chimney? Yes or no question, so a yes or no answer please mate.

2) It's all gone quiet (for now?) on that scenario I agree, but.......

If (and when?) it resurrects itself, and the Durham Police make a statement, and if Starmer has been proved to be out of order, and (as he's promised to do) steps aside, will (if he's not already been forced out) a certain occupant of the most famous address in the land, follow suit? Words like "breath" "hold" "not" and "my" spring to mind!

Two by-elections await later this month, and if opinion polls are to be believed, the Tories could lose 'em both, which would further reflect on the PM's already hugely damaged image.

Boris Johnson is a dead man walking, and whilst I'm pretty confident that he knows that himself, will he stubbornly, still try to sit it out?

40% of his own MPs no longer want him as their boss! He was booed going into St Paul's! When will he get the message?

With what precious little credibility he has left, he should use it by vacating number ten, and head for the obscurity of the back benches! 

Spelly.

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Topic starter Posted : 07/06/2022 7:27 am
Frankg
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I reckon Johnson will still be PM at Christmas, but will not lead the Tory Party in the next election. He is a man with no principles, would sell his granny to hold on to office and will not go willingly. The Tory Party and those in the Cabinet, in particular, will eventually grow a back bone and force him out. My guess is that the knives are already being sharpened.

The jovial buffoon has been found out as a man with little or no principles and a proven liar. The public will not forget this, or a Party that was so lacking in leadership that nobody had the courage to step forward to replace him.

it will be interesting to see the reaction to the inquiry into breaking the Ministerial Code of Conduct when he lied to Parliament; the likely loss of seats at the forthcoming by-elections; and the Inquiry into the corruption and incompetence in the response to the Covid pandemic.

As for the Labour Party, the sooner the Durham Police inquiries are completed, the better. The worst outcome would be Starmer having to step down, as this would lead to a damaging leadership battle, with the left seeing an opportunity to gain control of the Party. That would probably see the end of any chance of the Labour Party ever winning a Parliamentary election again.

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Posted : 07/06/2022 7:56 am
Anotherposter
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Petrol has just hit £2.00 per litre at the same time crude oil is £98.00 a barrel

In June 2008 crude oil was £119.00 per barrel and the price of a litre of petrol ?............£1.19

All that extra revenue is being collected by the Government that blames the situation in "Ukraine" for the price at the pumps, but it has nothing to do with that at all , it is their policies and actions that are causing all the "issues" whilst they continue to lie and we pick up the cost for their mistakes and profiteering

Dont think Labour would do any better Sir Kier "women can have a penis" Starmer and his party has backed them in every decision they made , even going so far as to say they were not strong or strict enough at times

 

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Posted : 11/06/2022 10:39 pm
gpo1971
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UK News yesterday

  • Govt prepares to send empty plane intended for asylum seekers to Rwanda
  • Govt outlines plan to back-track on "world beating/oven ready" Brexit arrangement in contravention of EU law, risking Trade War
  • Real-term pay falling at its fastest for a decade
  • Scotland launching their new Independence drive in the face of English Brexit
  • Oil refineries making 5 times what they did this time last year
  • Economy contracting, heading for recession, slowest amongst developed nations. EU Trade War will kill it outright

 

Going well isn't it?

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Posted : 14/06/2022 7:24 am
gpo1971
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His 'ethics' advisor has resigned today. To go with his 'anti-corruption tsar' last week 🤣 🤣 

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Posted : 15/06/2022 6:18 pm
Ditton donkey
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Did he used to play for Rochdale hornets - or was that Stan Ogden, I get them mixed up as they have similar hair styles 

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Posted : 15/06/2022 7:24 pm
widneslatic
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Estimable Member
Posted by: @spelly
Posted by: @widneslatic
Posted by: @spelly

For 211-148 Against, and under Tory party rules, there can't be another (no) confidence vote for twelve months, but...............

Tonight's result is worse for Boris, than it was when Theresa May faced summat similar, and she was history within six months, so.........

Who are we gonna see first - Santa or a new Tory leader?

As I said earlier, Partygate will remain a millstone round his neck, as long as he hangs on, and with 40% of his MPs wanting him out, I confidently predict that he'll have joined Matt Hancock on the back benches before Christmas!

Spelly

1) To be fair, Boris has a much larger majority than May had, and May was also blocking a mandate (Brexit) which left the country unable to move forward, and left her up poo creek without a paddle...

2) I wonder how Kier Starmer's investigation is going...? 🤔

I hope Durham Police are doing a thorough job.

I shan't be holding my breath though, we all know its going to end up being swept underneath a rather large fireside rug... 🥴

1) So (in your opinion) will Boris still be in situ when Santa comes down the chimney? Yes or no question, so a yes or no answer please mate.

2) It's all gone quiet (for now?) on that scenario I agree, but.......

If (and when?) it resurrects itself, and the Durham Police make a statement, and if Starmer has been proved to be out of order, and (as he's promised to do) steps aside, will (if he's not already been forced out) a certain occupant of the most famous address in the land, follow suit? Words like "breath" "hold" "not" and "my" spring to mind!

Two by-elections await later this month, and if opinion polls are to be believed, the Tories could lose 'em both, which would further reflect on the PM's already hugely damaged image.

Boris Johnson is a dead man walking, and whilst I'm pretty confident that he knows that himself, will he stubbornly, still try to sit it out?

40% of his own MPs no longer want him as their boss! He was booed going into St Paul's! When will he get the message?

With what precious little credibility he has left, he should use it by vacating number ten, and head for the obscurity of the back benches! 

Spelly.

1). Yes, I do think he'll still be here by Christmas.

If he was to go, I think he would've done it by now. 

2). We all know Starmer will get off with it, because Durham Police were reluctant to investigate it in the first place.

Left wing "sins" go completely unnoticed these days because the mainstream media are too preoccupied with the Daily Boris "Bashathon"...

 

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Posted : 15/06/2022 7:31 pm
widneslatic
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Estimable Member

Another thing which is boiling my p1ss at the moment is Labour's stance on immigrants...

 

https://twitter.com/NadiaWhittomeMP/status/1536821010741207040

 

What on earth do they expect the government to do with them??? 🤔

Isn't it Labour's "raison d'etre" to bang on about how badly managed & under funded the NHS is under The Tories??? 🤔

So...

Why are they trying to create MORE problems for the NHS by wanting the government to take in every bugger & their dog...??? 🤔🤦

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Posted : 15/06/2022 7:42 pm
Royston Vasey
(@royston-vasey)
Honorable Member

@widneslatic No, the “raisin d”etre’ of the Labour Party isn’t to “bang on” about the NHS. If you look up the date of the formation of the Labour Party on Google you might be quite surprised to see that it pre-dates the NHS by a couple of years.

To be honest, it sounds like you are trying to deflect attention from the Edwardian public school caricature “governing” the country. Don’t you think there is a certain irony in the resignation of his ethics adviser? Even more ironic that he actually needs one. Typical type of Boris I suppose - presentation of an illusion of doing the right thing to accompany his ‘do what I say, not what I do’ way of running his life, and rather more sadly, the country

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Posted : 15/06/2022 8:12 pm
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Frankg
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@widneslatic Maybe Priti Patel should fund the Home Office to set up an efficient process for determining asylum claims in a reasonable period, including a right of appeal, preferably in France with the co-operation of the French authorities. This would at least enable genuine asylum seekers to be identified and arrangements made to transport them safely to the UK.

The Rwandan fiasco is just a sop to the right wing of the Tory Party, who want to blame uncontrolled immigration under the Tory Government - what on earth have they been doing since 2010! - as the cause of all problems.

Don’t you think the under-funding of the NHS since 2010 under the banner of austerity has contributed to this, together with a complete lack of manpower planning, leading to the current shortage of staff in the NHS?

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Posted : 15/06/2022 8:13 pm
widneslatic
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Estimable Member
Posted by: @frankg

@widneslatic Maybe Priti Patel should fund the Home Office to set up an efficient process for determining asylum claims in a reasonable period, including a right of appeal, preferably in France with the co-operation of the French authorities. This would at least enable genuine asylum seekers to be identified and arrangements made to transport them safely to the UK.

The Rwandan fiasco is just a sop to the right wing of the Tory Party, who want to blame uncontrolled immigration under the Tory Government - what on earth have they been doing since 2010! - as the cause of all problems.

Don’t you think the under-funding of the NHS since 2010 under the banner of austerity has contributed to this, together with a complete lack of manpower planning, leading to the current shortage of staff in the NHS?

Even with the most efficient process on the planet, the numbers which the French Authorities are openly letting cross the Channel would over run it.

As for uncontrolled immigration, I'm 99.95% certain that started under Tony Blair ...but that doesn't suit the Left's twisted agenda, does it?

As for The NHS... think I've hit a nerve here, haven't I?

Completely swerving my point, and going straight "on the attack".

Face facts... Labour have played their part in the NHS sh1tshow just as much as The Tories have, and now they're adding to it by effectively endorsing unlimited immigration... 🤦🤦🤦

 

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Posted : 15/06/2022 8:36 pm
widneslatic
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Posted by: @royston-vasey

@widneslatic No, the “raisin d”etre’ of the Labour Party isn’t to “bang on” about the NHS. If you look up the date of the formation of the Labour Party on Google you might be quite surprised to see that it pre-dates the NHS by a couple of years.

To be honest, it sounds like you are trying to deflect attention from the Edwardian public school caricature “governing” the country. Don’t you think there is a certain irony in the resignation of his ethics adviser? Even more ironic that he actually needs one. Typical type of Boris I suppose - presentation of an illusion of doing the right thing to accompany his ‘do what I say, not what I do’ way of running his life, and rather more sadly, the country

It's been Labour's raison d'etre throughout my lifetime ...and I'm 44 🥴

To be honest, I've actually been very honest about Boris over the last year or so (more so than many die hard Tories), and as I've said numerous times before, it's impossible to have a reasoned debate about politics these days, as there is simply no middle ground any more.

Labour voters have become so bitterly entrenched over the last few years (emboldened by a certain Comrade Corbyn, no doubt...), its actually heartbreaking to see. 

Politics in the UK is on life support, as the majority are already resorting to old fashioned school yard squabbling.

Don't be part of it...

 

 

 

 

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Posted : 15/06/2022 8:56 pm
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