Don't be part of it... you must be joking mate.
My Tory experience is 80's recession, my Dad on the dole, the grinding down of the working class North, the 2010s austerity movement, foodbanks and now the sheer abject move towards elitism and exclusion. There is nothing else to the Tory story.
The left-wing agenda? Who owns our media? The top daily's are all right-wing love-ins. From the disgusting S*n to the thinking man's fascist daily, that good old Mail. These are the outlets that are peddling the Buffoon story and they're all firmly in your camp. The paranoia that accompanies the lack of total obedience is what gets misconstrued as lefty nonsense, its a joke.
Look at this week, not content with making us a rogue state that reneges on international treaties (Brexit) we're now apparently looking at opting out of the European Court of Human Rights. It's shameful. Cameron and Mrs May wouldn't stoop so low to do what he's doing and called it out. He's abhorrent.
I 100% support unelected EU bureaucrats over elected Tories every day of the week because I know who has done more for Widnes and the NW over the past 30 or 40 years. I work in Local Government and leaving the EU is a death sentence for the North, forget Gove and levelling up, anyone with any modicum of nouse knows that's never going to happen.
Supporting political parties has become like football teams, stick with them through thick and thin. But I can't fathom how any rational Northern person can stick with this lot, they'll kill us.
The Buffoon is a disgrace, his lot are sickly suck-ups who will say and do anything to cling onto power. It's telling those with a conscience are jumping, those who haven't remain.
You know, it doesn't even come down to Starmer as opposition, who is piss weak. I agree. It's just, the lack of acknowledgement that these bastards are wrong in everything they do is mind-blowing.
@widneslatic No, the “raisin d”etre’ of the Labour Party isn’t to “bang on” about the NHS. If you look up the date of the formation of the Labour Party on Google you might be quite surprised to see that it pre-dates the NHS by a couple of years.
To be honest, it sounds like you are trying to deflect attention from the Edwardian public school caricature “governing” the country. Don’t you think there is a certain irony in the resignation of his ethics adviser? Even more ironic that he actually needs one. Typical type of Boris I suppose - presentation of an illusion of doing the right thing to accompany his ‘do what I say, not what I do’ way of running his life, and rather more sadly, the country
It's been Labour's raison d'etre throughout my lifetime ...and I'm 44 🥴
To be honest, I've actually been very honest about Boris over the last year or so (more so than many die hard Tories), and as I've said numerous times before, it's impossible to have a reasoned debate about politics these days, as there is simply no middle ground any more.
Labour voters have become so bitterly entrenched over the last few years (emboldened by a certain Comrade Corbyn, no doubt...), its actually heartbreaking to see.
Politics in the UK is on life support, as the majority are already resorting to old fashioned school yard squabbling.
Don't be part of it...
“Comfortably numb” springs to mind
I’ve got my job and I’ve got my Sky and I’m “Following the herd down to Greece, on holiday”. Basically, what you’re saying is “I’m alright so stuff everyone else”. What you imagine being 44 has anything to do with it is anyone’s guess but it does provide at least a modicum of understanding to your lack of understanding of cause and effect. I was, as a layabout student, present at a number of ‘Right to Work’ marches back in the austere times of Attila the Hen, as the Rt Hon Norman St John-Stevas christened her. They were a cracking good day out, bit of a walk in the fresh air, friendly banter with the local constabulary and then back to being unemployed the next day for most of the marchers, who unlike Tebbit’s dad had been forced to sell their bikes to buy clothes for their kids.
Anyway, I’m wasting my typing finger as you will clearly never understand.
So Ethics Advisor number two has written to the PM, basically saying "Shove it boss!"
There's two (current) Tory constituencies heading to the polls a week hence, and even the 20,000+ majority that the blue faction has in deepest Devon, is under severe threat!
Over 40% of his MPs said "We don't want you as our leader!" at the recent (no?) confidence vote.
When was "good news" and "Boris Johnson" last mentioned in the same sentence?
Can anybody on here (or elsewhere) tell me what credibility the (not for much longer?) key holder of the most famous address in the land has left?
Spelly.
Summer & autumn of discontent incoming. Which is ironic really as they told everyone it would be Corbyn who would take the country back to the 70s. To be fair, I'd rather go back to the 1970s under Corbyn than the 1870s under The Buffoon and Adolf Rees-Mogg.
I do hope we're balloted, I'll be out like a shot.
@widneslatic No, the “raisin d”etre’ of the Labour Party isn’t to “bang on” about the NHS. If you look up the date of the formation of the Labour Party on Google you might be quite surprised to see that it pre-dates the NHS by a couple of years.
To be honest, it sounds like you are trying to deflect attention from the Edwardian public school caricature “governing” the country. Don’t you think there is a certain irony in the resignation of his ethics adviser? Even more ironic that he actually needs one. Typical type of Boris I suppose - presentation of an illusion of doing the right thing to accompany his ‘do what I say, not what I do’ way of running his life, and rather more sadly, the country
It's been Labour's raison d'etre throughout my lifetime ...and I'm 44 🥴
To be honest, I've actually been very honest about Boris over the last year or so (more so than many die hard Tories), and as I've said numerous times before, it's impossible to have a reasoned debate about politics these days, as there is simply no middle ground any more.
Labour voters have become so bitterly entrenched over the last few years (emboldened by a certain Comrade Corbyn, no doubt...), its actually heartbreaking to see.
Politics in the UK is on life support, as the majority are already resorting to old fashioned school yard squabbling.
Don't be part of it...
“Comfortably numb” springs to mind
I’ve got my job and I’ve got my Sky and I’m “Following the herd down to Greece, on holiday”. Basically, what you’re saying is “I’m alright so stuff everyone else”. What you imagine being 44 has anything to do with it is anyone’s guess but it does provide at least a modicum of understanding to your lack of understanding of cause and effect. I was, as a layabout student, present at a number of ‘Right to Work’ marches back in the austere times of Attila the Hen, as the Rt Hon Norman St John-Stevas christened her. They were a cracking good day out, bit of a walk in the fresh air, friendly banter with the local constabulary and then back to being unemployed the next day for most of the marchers, who unlike Tebbit’s dad had been forced to sell their bikes to buy clothes for their kids.
Anyway, I’m wasting my typing finger as you will clearly never understand.
Oh I do understand, believe you me.
As I've said before, Comrade Corbyn has emboldened the "old soaks" on the far left of Labour.
Marches & Strikes will become the norm again.
Such a shame The Iron Lady isn't around any more to put these cranks back in their box...
Summer & autumn of discontent incoming. Which is ironic really as they told everyone it would be Corbyn who would take the country back to the 70s. To be fair, I'd rather go back to the 1970s under Corbyn than the 1870s under The Buffoon and Adolf Rees-Mogg.
I do hope we're balloted, I'll be out like a shot.
Not sure the RMT (or the strikers) will get much sympathy on this, if I'm being honest...
Wages with Network Rail ain't too shabby.
A friend of our family left a job as a fully qualified Mental Health Nurse last year, to go working for Network Rail, he was on £30k+ before he left the NHS...
Summer & autumn of discontent incoming. Which is ironic really as they told everyone it would be Corbyn who would take the country back to the 70s. To be fair, I'd rather go back to the 1970s under Corbyn than the 1870s under The Buffoon and Adolf Rees-Mogg.
I do hope we're balloted, I'll be out like a shot.
Not sure the RMT (or the strikers) will get much sympathy on this, if I'm being honest...
Wages with Network Rail ain't too shabby.
A friend of our family left a job as a fully qualified Mental Health Nurse last year, to go working for Network Rail, he was on £30k+ before he left the NHS...
A fully qualified mental health nurse earning little more than average wage is part of the problem isn't it?
Let's face facts, there's a raft of people who need a 20% raise to (1) earn what they should be entitled to (2) keep pace with inflation.
Tax the rich/mega corporations.
Just checked the odds on tomorrow's by-elections, and................
Over the hills in Wakefield, Labour are at 1/100, and.............
Down in Tiverton, where the Blue Brigade are defending a 20,000+ majority, Davey's Disciples, are at 4/11, so............
If these prove to be correct, I ask again, how much longer can this apology of a PM, cling on to the keys at Number 10?
Spelly.
Well, the inevitable came to pass, with Tiverton, and Wakefield being no longer blue, and the party chairman becoming the latest to join the "Shove it boss!" brigade.
There have been suggestions on a phone in I was listening to earlier, that Johnson is currently a bigger aide to the opposition, than he is to the Tory Party, so...........
Despite the constant calls (me more than once included) for him to fall on his sword, are the likes of Starmer, Davey, and Blackford, inwardly thinking this? "Stay where you are Boris, coz you're doing us a favour in doing so!"
He is fast running out of friends, and the ice he's skating on, is getting thinner by the day, but............................
I'll amend my question when I started this thread to................
Should (for the benefit of non Tories) Boris Johnson remain in situ
Spelly.
It's boring this now, they're that crunchie it's not worth calling out their uselessness.
Can anyone who supports them tell us what they've actually done for the country since 2010?
We need to look at our electoral system, a variant of proportional representation is required.
As it is, we have a system that allows a party to poll 43% of an election vote, which represents less than 30% of the vote of the total electorate, but have 57% of the total make-up of our Parliament.
Less than 3 people out of every 10, and diminishing, supported this Government at the last election, the power they are able to wield is completely disproportionate.
@gpo1971 what we need is an anarchy-syndicalism commune …… Monty Python’s constitutional peasants sketch seems just about right for the current administration.
On a slightly more serious note it is interesting to note that the PM said that people always blame the Government when times are tough. How can we go wrong with such a towering intellect at the helm. I should probably add that he was quick to divorce his Government and leadership from any responsibility for the situation. As GPO said, HE’s not even worth the effort of laughing at any more.
@widneslatic No, the “raisin d”etre’ of the Labour Party isn’t to “bang on” about the NHS. If you look up the date of the formation of the Labour Party on Google you might be quite surprised to see that it pre-dates the NHS by a couple of years.
To be honest, it sounds like you are trying to deflect attention from the Edwardian public school caricature “governing” the country. Don’t you think there is a certain irony in the resignation of his ethics adviser? Even more ironic that he actually needs one. Typical type of Boris I suppose - presentation of an illusion of doing the right thing to accompany his ‘do what I say, not what I do’ way of running his life, and rather more sadly, the country
It's been Labour's raison d'etre throughout my lifetime ...and I'm 44 🥴
To be honest, I've actually been very honest about Boris over the last year or so (more so than many die hard Tories), and as I've said numerous times before, it's impossible to have a reasoned debate about politics these days, as there is simply no middle ground any more.
Labour voters have become so bitterly entrenched over the last few years (emboldened by a certain Comrade Corbyn, no doubt...), its actually heartbreaking to see.
Politics in the UK is on life support, as the majority are already resorting to old fashioned school yard squabbling.
Don't be part of it...
“Comfortably numb” springs to mind
I’ve got my job and I’ve got my Sky and I’m “Following the herd down to Greece, on holiday”. Basically, what you’re saying is “I’m alright so stuff everyone else”. What you imagine being 44 has anything to do with it is anyone’s guess but it does provide at least a modicum of understanding to your lack of understanding of cause and effect. I was, as a layabout student, present at a number of ‘Right to Work’ marches back in the austere times of Attila the Hen, as the Rt Hon Norman St John-Stevas christened her. They were a cracking good day out, bit of a walk in the fresh air, friendly banter with the local constabulary and then back to being unemployed the next day for most of the marchers, who unlike Tebbit’s dad had been forced to sell their bikes to buy clothes for their kids.
Anyway, I’m wasting my typing finger as you will clearly never understand.
Oh I do understand, believe you me.
As I've said before, Comrade Corbyn has emboldened the "old soaks" on the far left of Labour.
Marches & Strikes will become the norm again.
Such a shame The Iron Lady isn't around any more to put these cranks back in their box...
You are genuinely deserving of pathos, or, to use the more common term - pathetic.
It isn’t about party politics, or as the clown prince himself has been saying on his trip to Rwanda, about personality. It’s about the care and support for all members of the community in which we chose to live.
Your comments, as ever, show that the only people you are interested in are yourself and those closest to you. That’s absolutely fine and is fair enough in so far as it goes.
The trouble is you rely on a lot of other people in society to do things that ensure your insular little existence plods along. People like doctors and nurses and power workers and teachers and all the other people who produce goods and sell them and the people who staff cafes and restaurants and shops and bus and train drivers and rubbish collectors and undertakers and all sorts of people who live on or below the poverty line. If inflation / cost of living / unemployment has a deleterious impact on their lives then you will probably find it has a knock-on effect for your good self. I’ve no doubt that the blame will be fairly and squarely apportioned the those it doesn’t belong too, but that’s ok it’s been the same throughout history.
Given your age you are too young to actually remember Thatcher and what she did and how she did it so I will ignore the comments as childish posturing, other than to say, be careful what you wish for, the thing about cleaning out the weak from society means that whatever remains automatically has the next candidates for the new weakest society members …