His views were interesting, much like those of TS when he signed, in that he needs to be dealing with live players rather than 'advising' or just watching games.
It sounds far fetched but a part time attachment to a competitive club would give him that involvement with players. As I say, sounds far fetched, almost as far fetched as Tim Sheens coaching Widnes?
Unlikely but not totally impossible,
So on Total RL they have 6 potential candidates for the Widnes job, :
-Andrew Henderson
-Richard Marshall
-Alan Kilshaw
-Danny Orr
-Leon Pryce
-John Winder (the Wigan Assistant)
All supposition no doubt, but an interesting list of potential coaches, Marshall and Henderson were discussed 2 years ago, Kilshaw last year.
So on Total RL they have 6 potential candidates for the Widnes job, : -Andrew Henderson -Richard Marshall -Alan Kilshaw -Danny Orr -Leon Pryce -John Winder (the Wigan Assistant) All supposition no doubt, but an interesting list of potential coaches, Marshall and Henderson were discussed 2 years ago, Kilshaw last year.
Good varied choice.
I would go with Henderson - he had a good track record at London, but seems to have largely disappeared at Warrington with Briers seemingly taking a lead role alongside Price. Maybe time to get back into being a full time coach. Marshall has a similar background and Orr would offer substantial coaching experience at SL level as Assistant Coach at Castleford. I am not sure that Kilshaw, Price or Winder would offer anything different from the past, but you won't know until they have been given a chance and can we afford to take that risk
I guess it will all come down to who wants to come to Widnes and can we afford them. Interesting couple of weeks ahead.
There is only Kilshaw applied out of all them being reported.
There is only Kilshaw applied out of all them being reported.
Not good news - applications will flood in at the weekend!!!
There is only Kilshaw applied out of all them being reported.
Not good news – applications will flood in at the weekend!!!
Only what I’ve heard that’s all, as you say will be plenty of applicants
Winder - Wigan assistant coach
Henderson - Warrington assistant coach and ex London head coach.
Danny Orr - Castleford assistant coach, confirmed leaving at the end of the season to pursue other coaching opportunities.
Richard Marshall - Saints assistant coach and ex Halifax head coach.
Leon Pryce - Sky TV pundit and former Workington head coach
Alan Kilshaw - former Rochdale head coach.
Pure guesswork, rather than anything concrete. Sean Long not mentioned but said to be leaving Harlequins, is local and yet to hold a head coaches position. Danny Orr you would assume is leaving Castleford for a head coaches job, but is Yorkshire based.
Marshall and Henderson seem the strongest candidates on paper, but they have already left Championship head coaching positions for SL assistant roles, would they want to coach a part time outfit?
Depends who you heard it from! The bloke in the betting shop maybe?
Early reports were that we had a good standard of interested applicants. Just have to wait and see!
I just hope that whoever gets the job is going to live in the area at least. Most of our squad are relatively local and it hopefully promotes a local team spirit.
The interview process is so important IMO, lot of care and attention needs to go into it.
Perception is interesting too, Kilshaw on here (or was it the old site?) was not well received last year, but actually has done ok at Rochdale.
The likes of Agar (York) Duffy and, in particular, Watson have come from difficult/unglamorous jobs and done well.
The interview process is so important IMO, lot of care and attention needs to go into it. Perception is interesting too, Kilshaw on here (or was it the old site?) was not well received last year, but actually has done ok at Rochdale. The likes of Agar (York) Duffy and, in particular, Watson have come from difficult/unglamorous jobs and done well.
Good point on Kilshaw, although I’ve heard stuff on his man management but there are a number of local ish coaches who have coached in championship under adversity and done well, we have a perception that a job has to be a household name but you need that chance to become a household name. I think Widnes are in a good position just to take a step back and build a good coaching team, build some stability.
On another note, will the Covid situation dictate,
How much money is available for a coach / staff, due to crowds not being back till April?
The area the coach comes from? Is more local the better due to bubbles / restrictions / tier 1/2/3 etc?
Looking at Kilshaw's CV and he seems to have followed a pretty good route with Aus experience etc. Obviously intent on a big coaching career which could be good or bad depending on how he treats the clubs on his way up.
Looking at Kilshaw’s CV and he seems to have followed a pretty good route with Aus experience etc. Obviously intent on a big coaching career which could be good or bad depending on how he treats the clubs on his way up.
Kilshaw's coaching experience is fairly limited, with some experience at Warrington at youth level before going to Australia as Assistant Coach at a relatively low level (Mackay Cutters (where Gerrard & White ended up at one stage) and Head Coach of the celubrious Sarina Crocodiles. He joined Rochdale prior to the 2016 season and managed to get them promoted to the Championship, only for them to be relegated back to League 1 in 2018 when he left the club. I don't think that he has held any coaching position since then. Not an ideal background, but depends what he can offer the club. Not my choice really.
Let's hope that the club get it right, whoever they select, and appoint someone with the experience and ability to move the club forward. Sheens will be a hard act to follow for anyone.
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It's about personality, man-management and skill set, as much as experience: ideally you have a combination of the two.
Danny Ward for instance was not experienced but has proven himself well.
Looking at Kilshaw’s CV and he seems to have followed a pretty good route with Aus experience etc. Obviously intent on a big coaching career which could be good or bad depending on how he treats the clubs on his way up.
What I don’t get about Kilshaw is what is the selling point? Yes, he won promotion from a largely hybrid-amateur division but so did Matt Diskin at Oldham?
Look I don’t know much about him but although I am not saying we should hire Paul Anderson but who’s got the better record.
What is the former Hull manager up to these days?
Paul Anderson would be a good shout IMO. Yes the last season at Huddersfield wasn't fantastic but he won the League Leaders Shield too. Wire Academy coach currently.
Lee Radford I think has signed for an American RU side as a coach: incidentally Neil Kelly was over there too.