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(@theredviking)
Eminent Member

From what I can gather this is our out of contract list for this season. What is everyone’s opinion on keeping or binning:

Matty Fleming - Keep
Matty Fozard - Keep
Levy Nzoungou - Bin
Liam Bent - Keep (changed my opinion lately on LB)
Dec Gregory - Bin
Ryan Ince - Bin if can upgrade
Brad Holroyd - Bin
Aaron Brown - Keep
Oliver Davies - Bin

Kenny Baker - Keep
Oliver Brookes - Bin
Joe Edge - Keep
Shane Grady - Bin if can upgrade
Lewis Hulme - Bin if JJ joins
Lloyd Roby - Bin
Steve Tyrer - Bin if can upgrade
Matty Smith - Bin if can upgrade but keep as a coach ideally
Jake Spedding - Bin if can upgrade
Will Tilleke - Bin

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Topic starter Posted : 15/08/2022 5:54 pm
 tosh
(@tosh)
Estimable Member

Matty Smith will not be with us next year 

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Posted : 15/08/2022 6:19 pm
(@sunny)
Noble Member

@tosh 

Where will he be? 

As what?

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Posted : 15/08/2022 6:24 pm
 tosh
(@tosh)
Estimable Member

@sunny he's doing hgv course

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Posted : 15/08/2022 6:26 pm
(@sunny)
Noble Member

@tosh 

Thanks, but does that in itself mean he could no longer play or coach on a part time basis?

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Posted : 15/08/2022 6:30 pm
 tosh
(@tosh)
Estimable Member

@sunny it's always possible but from the horse's mouth he's packing in

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Posted : 15/08/2022 6:33 pm
Hans Moleman
(@hans-moleman)
Estimable Member

I would keep Davies, Roby, Hulme and Spedding ⚫️🏁⚪️

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Posted : 15/08/2022 6:41 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
Noble Member

We need 3 Hookers IMO, so Hulme should stay, even if he only plays a few games.

Need a good pool of props.

Think binning Roby would be harsh, I would argue he was our best back until he got injured.

As I have said previously, a strike centre would be a big priority for me.

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Posted : 15/08/2022 8:00 pm
(@theredviking)
Eminent Member
Posted by: @hans-moleman

I would keep Davies, Roby, Hulme and Spedding ⚫️🏁⚪️

Davies knocks on too much for me. Look at Havens second try yesterday as well. He can be a soft touch in defence. 

Roby hasn’t done enough over the years from me despite being reasonable at the start of the year. If we are wanting to push for a top 4 place he’s not up to it.

 

Spedding and Hulme are worth keeping if we can’t upgrade 

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Topic starter Posted : 15/08/2022 8:37 pm
 MT
(@mt)
Noble Member

Harsh on Roby imo. He’s young and was progressing prior to his injury and also offers cover in several positions in the backline. May not be first choice next season but I think he’s shown enough to suggest he should be kept on. 

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Posted : 15/08/2022 9:31 pm
(@pascal)
Noble Member

A few from your list I would bin, but some might be required for squad depth and rotation. Players like Levy, Tilleke, Brooks, Holyroyd, Davies and Grady for me are not at the level players if want top 4. I was also thinking Lyons and Owens to get rid too, but it seems Kear is improving Lyons, so I wait and see next few games. We definitely need a top centre, winger, hooker, halfback, 2 props and Second rower of higher quality. Overall I say about 85% stay with extra 7 players of extra quality, as we can't lose everyone. Some have improved a lot under Kear and I trust his judgement. 

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Posted : 16/08/2022 12:29 am
(@sunny)
Noble Member
Posted by: @tosh

@sunny it's always possible but from the horse's mouth he's packing in

Well, if Smith told you himself it must be true.

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Posted : 16/08/2022 5:10 am
(@sandgroper)
Famed Member

I will await JK's assessment of retentions, he may see things differently!

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Posted : 16/08/2022 9:12 am
Hans Moleman
(@hans-moleman)
Estimable Member

Josh Johnson is more of a liability than Davies with poor handling, penalties and red mist moments (Batley away, Barrow summer bash and Fev at home) . I agree OD may not be a world beater but from my observations he is a 100% passionate player who wants to win. He is young enough to benefit from JKs coaching and a more experienced pack leaders influence. Also I agree its harsh on Roby. He stood out before injury in a run of poor performances.  ⚪️🏁⚫️

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Posted : 16/08/2022 9:14 am
(@viking25)
Prominent Member

I’d be looking at something like this:

Under Contract:

Wilde, Craven, Farnworth, Lawton, Lyons, Owens, Johnson.

Keep:

Fleming, Fozard, Bent, Ince, Davies, Baker, Edge, Grady, Roby, Smith, Spedding, Tilleke, Hulme. 

Release:

Nzoungo, Gregory, Holroyd, Brown, Brookes, Tyrer.

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Posted : 16/08/2022 9:52 am
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