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(@mckviking)
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I didn’t get chance to listen to the game on radio as working but I’m glad I didn’t. I’m trying not to lose interest this season, my mates (from widnes) living in Australia no longer even want to hear about how Widnes are getting on.  I understand we don’t have loads of money but we have enough to put together a decent squad to compete at this level l. I personally believe we won’t go anywhere with the current CEO at the helm. We need to find someone who is willing to take over and put money into the club, that should be paramount for our survival as a club players want to play for 

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Posted : 02/06/2022 6:58 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
Noble Member
Posted by: @sinbad

Just as an aside, Barrow,who were in the third division just nine months ago, came within three minutes of beating Leigh today and are in 6th place in the table.Shows what can be done with a limited squad and the right application.

Exactly. And lest us forget Batley won again today, P12, W8, D1 L3 record, far better than ours.

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Topic starter Posted : 02/06/2022 7:04 pm
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(@staffs-viking)
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I'm wondering whether go to Barrow or not now ,I have my ticket only 12 quid wasted 

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Posted : 02/06/2022 7:05 pm
 Dan1
(@dan1)
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I have lost interest, the players aren't good enough. Sacking Finnigan didn't do a thing so they need to shoulder the blame.  Barrow, Batley and Halifax are much better than us with very limited resources.  All this talk of full time, rich backers etc is rubbish, to finish between 4th and 6th in the Championship you don't need any of that. We are miles off. 

You can't charge £22 with the economy the way it is to watch that garbage. You can't have a go at the board as no one else wanted to take the job on, but the whole setup isn't good enough. It's not fair on the supporters to be expected to put up with such poor poor performances at this level every single week  home and away now. Not Superleague against Wigan and Saints, in the last couple of seasons we have been soundly beaten by Dewsbury, Barrow, Batley, Newcastle, Sheffield the list goes on. Sheffield get 700 fans and play at something that looks like a university playing field!! IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 

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Posted : 02/06/2022 7:49 pm
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(@viking25)
Prominent Member
Posted by: @sinbad

Just as an aside, Barrow,who were in the third division just nine months ago, came within three minutes of beating Leigh today and are in 6th place in the table.Shows what can be done with a limited squad and the right application.

Barrow have a better squad than us.

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Posted : 02/06/2022 8:29 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
Noble Member

Barrow do have a better team than us, so do Batley, so do Halifax. The question for me is how, given none of these have spent Featherstone or Leigh levels?

Can only suggest that whoever is responsible for signings has failed. Also, that the plans put in place tactically have been superior to ours, either because their coaches are all better, or because they have more able players who can go onto the pitch and carry out instructions to a good degree. Maybe a combination.

 

 

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Topic starter Posted : 02/06/2022 8:50 pm
(@elton-broke-the-east-stand)
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I went today. Hit and miss this season, got a free ticket so thought why not. I think I would have bought one anyway

 

but wow. I read earlier in this thread how these levels of performance have become acceptable, tick it off and move onto the next fixture. 1 win in 10! And YES, this is championship rugby. You thought we had it bad with the last SL regime, this years squad in the 32 years I’ve been Alive, is the worst Widnes team I have ever seen 

 

bent tackles, garbage going forward. Lyons, not good enough but I bet they’ll throw another contract at him, easy cheap option. Tyrer looks finished. No go forward props and when OF seems to make the yards, he gets involved in an off the ball incident and gives away another set of 6

 

garbage throughout. A coach is needed but I guarantee, it will not solve the issues were facing on that pitch. Those players are simply not good enough. Spedding knock on towards the end, it’s simple simple RL, the basics, if you haven’t got the basics skill set locked down by the time you reach your 20s, forget about lacing up those boots. Wingers shooting out the line on our try line again!!! Standing still waiting for a kicked ball to be caught on your own line, only for Bradford to jump on it and score. Another disgusting performance

 

 No financial backing, limited central funding from the RFL, I really really really worry about the future of this club. Changes are needed throughout. We were saved by this board but for a while now, signs are creeping in that they’ve taken us as far as they can now. New investment/leadership needed. If we continue like this, and sign similar for next season, it won’t be too long before we’re in the league below and it’s curtains. 239 points conceded in the last 6 games. If that stat doesn’t tell you all you need to know then I’m not sure what will. 

Only positive for me was the crowd. 300-500 Bradford fans mean over 2500+ Vikings. If the performances continue, i dread to think what they will sink to. Safe journeys to anybody going to Barrow, I hope it’s not too painful 

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Posted : 03/06/2022 2:56 am
(@d-day)
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@staffs-viking Wouldnt bother if I was you.  Waste of money.

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Posted : 03/06/2022 8:54 am
(@sinbad)
Noble Member
Posted by: @viking25
Barrow have a better squad than us.

You honestly think so, comparing the two on paper ? Nobody ever said before the season started that Barrow have the better squad than Widnes.Not that I remember.Only now.

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Posted : 03/06/2022 8:59 am
 MT
(@mt)
Noble Member

I thought we would finish above Barrow at the start of the season albeit below Halifax and probably below Batley as well. Aside from Sammut and Miloudi I’m not sure their squad is exactly star studded in this league. Even those of us who thought we would have a struggle to make the play offs surely recognise we are underachieving. 

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Posted : 03/06/2022 9:29 am
(@griffin1)
Estimable Member

When a coach signs a contract with a club, it is their job on the line, along with their reputation as a coach. Why anyone would sign up with no input in the signing of players is beyond me.

There is no indication that Finnegan did this, but if this years squad is made up of his choices, then it makes his quality as a coach even worse.

As has been mentioned, a coach with the right qualities can build a competitive team with a limited budget if they have belief in their abilities and confidence in his squad.

I am grateful that the people running the club were prepared to put their hand up when times were bleak, but there is nobody in the boardroom with the knowledge and ability to pick players and sign them (in my opinion ).

This year's squad is just not up to the job , and this is no reflection on any of they players , as every time they pull on a shirt , they put their bodies on the line in one of the toughest games in professional sport.

We need a new coach who is not afraid to cull the squad wholesale regardless of the previous endeavours of any player .

Recent results show just poor our squad is and surely the choice the club makes is going mark our ambitions in the rebuilding of the club. 

We need a coach who can produce a good game , not talk one.

 

 

 

 

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Posted : 03/06/2022 9:45 am
(@sandgroper)
Noble Member

What destroyed me was our tactics. We beat Whitehaven because we were unpredictable and it worked!

Yesterday was just so predictable it could have been 2019!

Attack left - ball to Craven and to Wilde, of course!!!!! On and on, tackler waiting and ready! They had our right hand attack sorted too, into touch again and again.

Up and under Hail Mary's would have looked creative!!!

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Posted : 03/06/2022 10:24 am
 MT
(@mt)
Noble Member

Against Whitehaven we seemed to have loads of dummy runners in addition to a much more varied kicking game. Fully appreciate Bradford are a much better side than Whitehaven which afforded us less time and space but surely we should have had a bit more about us in attack on Sunday.

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Posted : 03/06/2022 10:37 am
(@cuerdley-viking)
Reputable Member
Posted by: @griffin1

When a coach signs a contract with a club, it is their job on the line, along with their reputation as a coach. Why anyone would sign up with no input in the signing of players is beyond me.

There is no indication that Finnegan did this, but if this years squad is made up of his choices, then it makes his quality as a coach even worse.

As has been mentioned, a coach with the right qualities can build a competitive team with a limited budget if they have belief in their abilities and confidence in his squad.

I am grateful that the people running the club were prepared to put their hand up when times were bleak, but there is nobody in the boardroom with the knowledge and ability to pick players and sign them (in my opinion ).

This year's squad is just not up to the job , and this is no reflection on any of they players , as every time they pull on a shirt , they put their bodies on the line in one of the toughest games in professional sport.

We need a new coach who is not afraid to cull the squad wholesale regardless of the previous endeavours of any player .

Recent results show just poor our squad is and surely the choice the club makes is going mark our ambitions in the rebuilding of the club. 

We need a coach who can produce a good game , not talk one.

 

 

 

 

Quote: ''as every time they pull on a shirt, they put their bodies on the line'' 

 

Sorry Griffin, it's not true though is it, currently they are taking the p#ss 

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Posted : 03/06/2022 10:42 am
(@elton-broke-the-east-stand)
Active Member

Like Barrow and Fev, and York to a larger extent last season, we need individual sponsorship on a larger scale. No sugar daddy, but investment and sponsors targeting one particular player. We need this so badly and they need to get building for next season. 

if this board ever gets us back to the big time, they can revel in the success and take all of the plaudits. But equally, when things aren’t going well, it’s on their shoulders, and up to them to front some responsibility to get us out of this Rut. When they decided to save the club, this responsibility fallls on them, not the fans. Big, big changes needed throughout which the majority of fans seem in agreement on. 

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Posted : 03/06/2022 10:48 am
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