Tonight at 8 , be interesting to see what happens, personally it's Nandy for me but it's a bit of a hobsons choice really
Over the weekend, I had texts from Keir Starmer, Rebecca Long-Bailey, and Lisa Nandy, pushing for my vote for leader, and Angela Rayner for deputy. I also had a phone call from HQ, informing me the ballot papers will be sent out next week.
Am still undecided where my vote(s) will go.
Spelly.
Just checked the odds, and it's currently.............
Starmer - Varying between 1/8, and 1/20. RBL - 13/2 - 17/2. Nandy - 16/1 - 25/1.
Looks like it's all over bar the shouting, but this member has still not decided who he's voting for.
Spelly.
None of the above will ever get near being PM.
None of the above will ever get near being PM.
I don't think there'll be many, who'll disagree with you mate!
The / my party, is (and has been for too long) lacking someone who has the personality, and talent, to take it / us to the next level!
Spelly.
Saw an interview with Lisa Nandy on TV earlier this week and was impressed by her in many ways. She would certainly bring new things as party leader, though perhaps that is why she won’t be successful.
I am, and always have been, a Tory voter but firmly believe that we cannot have good government without a quality of opposition.
Saw an interview with Lisa Nandy on TV earlier this week and was impressed by her in many ways. She would certainly bring new things as party leader, though perhaps that is why she won’t be successful. I am, and always have been, a Tory voter but firmly believe that we cannot have good government without a quality of opposition.
You have no place on a Widnes forum being a lifelong Tory... Do one Tory Steve
Saw an interview with Lisa Nandy on TV earlier this week and was impressed by her in many ways. She would certainly bring new things as party leader, though perhaps that is why she won’t be successful. I am, and always have been, a Tory voter but firmly believe that we cannot have good government without a quality of opposition.
You have no place on a Widnes forum being a lifelong Tory… Do one Tory Steve
Candidate for post of the year....The great thing about sport (That's clearly missed by you!!) is that you put other things aside and come together for 1 aim, to support that team.
Imagine if we had any keyworkers on here that happened to vote that way and you told them to clear off. You're an embarrassment. Glad to see that within this crisis/tragedy the feeling of respecting people is strong...there are far more important things. Wise up.
The labour party is currently failing in a significant way
Worst tory party in living memory and barely an impact at local level
Starmer is very much a nodding donkey is nt he
The labour party is currently failing in a significant way
Worst tory party in living memory and barely an impact at local level
Starmer is very much a nodding donkey is nt he
Starmer the Hypocrite now being investigated by Durham Police over his Lockdown Beer & Curry Night.
Guaranteed the Police swiftly brush it under the carpet... 🙄
The labour party is currently failing in a significant way
Worst tory party in living memory and barely an impact at local level
Starmer is very much a nodding donkey is nt he
1) Starmer the Hypocrite now being investigated by Durham Police over his Lockdown Beer & Curry Night.
2) Guaranteed the Police swiftly brush it under the carpet... 🙄
1) It would appear so, from what's been announced today.
2) I seriously doubt it, again from what's been announced today.
Only modest gains for us overnight, and we should've done better, with Davey's Disciples looking to have fared best.
Spelly.
The labour party is currently failing in a significant way
Worst tory party in living memory and barely an impact at local level
Starmer is very much a nodding donkey is nt he
1) Starmer the Hypocrite now being investigated by Durham Police over his Lockdown Beer & Curry Night.
2) Guaranteed the Police swiftly brush it under the carpet... 🙄
1) It would appear so, from what's been announced today.
2) I seriously doubt it, again from what's been announced today.
Only modest gains for us overnight, and we should've done better, with Davey's Disciples looking to have fared best.
Spelly.
Unfortunately i lost faith with the labour party when sir keef the fence sitter came into power
Plus locally labour councilors are pretty weak
The Lib Dems are always a protest vote for people who won't vote Labour. They'll be back in the shadows come the next GE.
If Starmer broke the law he should be fined like everyone else who did. To suggest it puts him on a par with The Buffoon isn't right. As the sitting PM, they were his rules, he broke them, he lied to Parliament about it, he was fined for it, he's under investigation for more..... He's still got the Gray report to come, which most of the media is now speculating is going to be very damning of him. The Buffoon is well out on his own with this one.
And to further suggest the police will sweep it under the carpet is downright ridiculous. It's usually the left-wing media (as if) that get called out here. It's only a week since the High Court ruled The Buffoon and his Govt complicit in the deaths of >20,000 care home residents. There's been hardly any coverage of that, wonder why? Left-wing media my foot.
As for Starmer himself, I have no particular fondness for him and I think he's a poor party leader. Going up against The Buffoon should be like playing Accrington Stanley every week, Leader of the Opposition should be one of the easiest jobs in the Country right now due to how amazingly bad this Govt are. And Starmer still can't point score against them. I don't see any better options in his shadow cabinet either so Labour are going to have to wait for new blood I think, God knows how long that will take.
In the meantime we're stuck with The Buffoon until his own party tire of him.
There is a massive difference between the total disregard for the Covid rules in Downing Street, with multiple offences by people who actually imposed the restrictions on the rest of us, and a work related break at party offices during an election. Conservatives have been working hard to divert attention from the actions of the PM and his followers by pushing this party meeting in Durham. The matter has already been investigated once by Durham Police. There needs to be an investigation into the political pressure placed on Durham Police to open the investigation again.and no doubt this political pressure from the Conservatives on the Police needs to be looked at at some stage.
As for Kier Starmer, Labour has moved forward under his leadership following the disastrous lurch to the far left under Corbyn, who was the master fence sitter on the EU, which caused the loss of many Labour votes and seats. The test for Labour over the next two years prior to a 2024 General Election, will be for Labour to continue to attack the Conservative Party on it’s disastrous and corrupt handling of the Covid pandemic and it’s callous disregard for ordinary people in the current cost of living crisis; and to develop the policies that it will be putting to the people in 2024. The last thing that Labour needs is a damaging and divisive leadership election. Labour supporters should get behind the Labour Party under the leadership of Kier Starmer and just maybe, the Tory majority could be overturned in 2024.
Lib Dems and Greens will do their usual claim that they are heading for power following some success in mid-term elections but, like a dud firework, promise to light up the sky only to fizzle out come the general election.
This is what Keir Starmer said.
Quote-
Honesty and decency matter.
After months of denials the Prime Minister is now under criminal investigations for breaking his own lockdown laws.
He needs to the decent thing and resign
End Quote.
It would be a powerful message if Starmer resigned and and asked the Prime Minister to resign.
Otherwise its all just words.
One lot imposed rules on us they didn't believe in and ignored themselves. The other lot insisted that the rules should be even stricter. They also didn't believe those rules and ignored them themselves.
Starmer gained Mayfair and lost Hull. After 12 years of pretty abject Tory rule they have lost more council seats outside London in England than they have gained. These seats were last elected in 2018 under Jeremy Corbyn. Labour have performed worse outside London than in 2018.