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PaulieWalnuts
(@pauliewalnuts)
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How our score was calculated..

Paulie xx

 

https://widnesvikings.co.uk/2025-img-grading-breakdown/


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Topic starter Posted : 21/10/2025 4:26 pm
(@farnworth-viking)
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Is it worth trying to jump through all the hoops for minuscule IMG points, when the RL can change the rules for points at short notice, and the most likely way to get into SL is if someone comes in with a big financial sponsorship for a team, or you have someone who used to belong to your club, being involved in who gets promoted.


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Posted : 21/10/2025 5:44 pm
(@gpo1971)
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It doesn't look like we have much room for manoeuvre there. Can't see how we could get many more points than we're already getting. Well, without spending a shedload of money that we haven't got.


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Posted : 21/10/2025 6:01 pm
(@scouseviking55)
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Again very open and detailed breakdown by the club. Can’t really ask for more there’s physically nothing they can really do to improve any of the scores


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Posted : 21/10/2025 6:10 pm
(@viking32)
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I’ve looked at York and Bradford’s websites. Neither go into anywhere near the detail Widnes do to explain their scores. Basically Bradford just give the scores without any explanation. So no explanation as to why Bradford’s IMG score for the stadium has increased (or for that matter any of their other scores). And unless I’ve missed something York’s average attendance for last season is still under wraps as they’ve not even been bothered to give the individual marks that made up their IMG score. In addition as far as I know the criteria used for Super League applications has never been published.


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Posted : 21/10/2025 6:14 pm
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(@gpo1971)
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Yeah that's dodgy. I simply don't believe some of the ratings published.


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Posted : 21/10/2025 7:09 pm
 Dan1
(@dan1)
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@gpo1971 on performance we are only on 1.9 points out of 5. We have finished 7th, 5th and 7th over the last 3 years. If we can finish in the top 2/3 and win a grand final or the 1895 Cup if it still exists that will help. We can also get an extra 0.5 points if we can increase average crowds from 2,100 to 3,000. Those are the 2 we should be aiming for and go hand in hand.

Didn't we only win 4 home games this season? It makes building momentum difficult. 

The big gain would be owner investment, but that's a more difficult one. Grand Final and 3k crowds we absolutely should be targeting. 


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Posted : 21/10/2025 7:13 pm
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PaulieWalnuts
(@pauliewalnuts)
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Posted by: @farnworth-viking

Is it worth trying to jump through all the hoops for minuscule IMG points, when the RL can change the rules for points at short notice, and the most likely way to get into SL is if someone comes in with a big financial sponsorship for a team, or you have someone who used to belong to your club, being involved in who gets promoted.

That appears to be the only way we can get in. As you know, Stu Murphy more or less confirmed that last night. We better get used to 3 trips a year to Cumbria.

 

Paulie xx

 


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Topic starter Posted : 21/10/2025 8:39 pm
(@vikingfox71)
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@pauliewalnuts I just think concentrate on the team win games collect more fans more vip members be competitive for titles and just do everything bit by bit and maybe a investor will see the potential


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Posted : 21/10/2025 8:52 pm
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PaulieWalnuts
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Posted by: @vikingfox71

@pauliewalnuts I just think concentrate on the team win games collect more fans more vip members be competitive for titles and just do everything bit by bit and maybe a investor will see the potential

Totally agree, Mr Fox71

What IMG points already achieved will remain, unless the Stadium falls apart, regardless of what we do. I think we all agree, the next 'shoehorn' will be London Broncos, so we might as well stop chasing our tails, concentrate on getting a winning team on the plastic, and try and boost our score just by winning matches. The U18s development squad will be doing pre-season with the 1st team, you just never know what gems may be uncovered, that can make the step up. The media dept are going to get the Club on the kids app, TikTok, so our SM growth should go up the required annual 10%, an easy, free win. The Womens' team do some good , quirky videos on TT.

But back to the original point, get the recruitment right, get the results racking up in our favour, and grab the 'Low Hanging Fruit' as we go along.

 

Paulie xx

 


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Topic starter Posted : 21/10/2025 9:14 pm
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(@gpo1971)
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@dan1 if you work your way through the rationale of how we were graded, adding something like 2 points next year would be the most we could ever hope for; and I'd seriously doubt whether we could do it. But even 2 points added only moves us up 2 places to 17th.


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Posted : 22/10/2025 7:45 am
(@sandgroper)
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@pauliewalnuts 

The manipulation of IMG points varies from club to club and I for one will take some convincing that it's the same for all clubs (York's attendance figures particularly!). But in the short term we can look to change what we can change to our immediate advantage.

Better squad, under our control rather than begging for borrowed talent. Strangers filling injury losses hardly encourages slicker plays etc. Hopefully we can persuade supporters to return and fill the stands.

Sad reflection when free schools tickets aren't used. maybe parents aren't keen to supervise their offsprings!!??  


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Posted : 22/10/2025 7:51 am
(@vikingfox71)
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That's the biggest hurdle increasing the crowd although I don't understand we constantly announce 2500 yet our average is 2100 ??? 
if we can't give tickets away what can we do ? Have more teams playing before and htime with concessions for parents ? Offer super league clubs season ticket holders tickets ?? But then it becomes unfair on your own fans who don't get a discount it really is a struggle 


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Posted : 22/10/2025 9:59 am
(@spideylizard)
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@vikingfox71   It's a three year average and we used to announce tickets sold not bums on seats


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Posted : 22/10/2025 11:27 am
(@vikingfox71)
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@spideylizard Yes but surely you give the number of tickets sold eg 2500 rather than bums on seats 2100 why announce crowd figures every week if they're not the figures we put in


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Posted : 22/10/2025 12:43 pm
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