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(@farnworth-viking)
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I thought we played well for an hour this afternoon, and were very close to scoring 2 more tries., when we were over the line, but just prevented from grounding the ball, then we faded when they scored to edge in front.  Even then we were still in it with 5 minutes to go. I think the score flattered Bradford. 

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Posted : 25/05/2025 9:28 pm
PaulieWalnuts
(@pauliewalnuts)
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Posted by: @farnworth-viking

I thought we played well for an hour this afternoon, and were very close to scoring 2 more tries., when we were over the line, but just prevented from grounding the ball, then we faded when they scored to edge in front.  Even then we were still in it with 5 minutes to go. I think the score flattered Bradford. 

 

Your quote is factual and accurate, but on the 2nd half performance, the score didn't flatter The Bulls, at all. We hardly got out of our own half, due to a few factors (player size, wind in our faces). Souter was brilliant for them, and a worth MOM. They knocked on with the line open, early in the 2nd half. Morgan Mac looks more of a back rower than a Middle, and he'll now know that the French Elite Comp, ain't all that 'Elite'. Maizen was understandably 'jiggered' but did okay. Lyons & Gilly were busy, but we have no 'size' for them to hit. Everything was 'trundled in'. I can't remember Kirk, Rambo & Murray having any effect on the Bulls pack.

On to London, see you there.

 

Paulie xx

 

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Posted : 26/05/2025 9:02 am
(@ringo-bells)
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I believe Patton is back for London.

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Posted : 27/05/2025 11:51 am
 BEGG
(@begg)
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We all like a trier but at school they get picked last when doing the teams. Personally these lads put the effort in but we need some bigger size and quality in the team. Lets see what Andy Horabin will do and hopefully try and get some investment from other companies and sponsors. Without WVIPS I do not think Maizen would have signed, so hopefully we find some more members as (214) is not good enough. Imagine even doubling this would make a massive difference.  

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Posted : 27/05/2025 12:12 pm
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(@johng)
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Just seen the highlights Kirk and Riley are a disgrace every week u can just run straight at that big dope Kirk and you fall over the line he has to be one of the worst forwards in the league he is absolutely useless has he ever broke a tackle? And don’t get me started on Riley most of the game he’s walking into tackles and makes next to no yards no wonder we can never get out our half when we’ve got frauds like that playing in the pack. Coleman looks lost just like the team we have no go forward no attacking plan our 5th play tactics are woeful, remember people calling for Lyon’s and Gilmore to play together again can’t remember anything skilful or good they’ve done Lyon’s has been terrible and is simply not good enough it’s that simple. We need to improve fast but can’t see when or where that’s gonna happen 

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Posted : 27/05/2025 4:54 pm
 BEGG
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Posted by: @johng

Just seen the highlights Kirk and Riley are a disgrace every week u can just run straight at that big dope Kirk and you fall over the line he has to be one of the worst forwards in the league he is absolutely useless has he ever broke a tackle? And don’t get me started on Riley most of the game he’s walking into tackles and makes next to no yards no wonder we can never get out our half when we’ve got frauds like that playing in the pack. Coleman looks lost just like the team we have no go forward no attacking plan our 5th play tactics are woeful, remember people calling for Lyon’s and Gilmore to play together again can’t remember anything skilful or good they’ve done Lyon’s has been terrible and is simply not good enough it’s that simple. We need to improve fast but can’t see when or where that’s gonna happen 

I have only seen a handful of games due to living so far away. But on the games I have seen thought need a strike centre, running number 6 with quality and a few big forwards to break tackles and make yards. Some players do not seem good enough but a shame as every time I see Flemming, Fozard and Max Roberts play I am impressed.  There definitely needs investment and more fire power so I be looking at loans from Super League in the forwards to reignite us. I can not comment on Riley and Kirk but on games I have seen I have not been impressed, but have liked Dan Murray and LLoyd. Hopefully Dec Patton, Lewis Hall and Mcwhirter bring some steel to the team, then with possibly 2 loan forwards from Superleague if Kirk and Reilly are so poor. 

 

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Posted : 27/05/2025 9:24 pm
PaulieWalnuts
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Posted by: @johng

Just seen the highlights Kirk and Riley are a disgrace every week u can just run straight at that big dope Kirk and you fall over the line he has to be one of the worst forwards in the league he is absolutely useless has he ever broke a tackle? And don’t get me started on Riley most of the game he’s walking into tackles and makes next to no yards no wonder we can never get out our half when we’ve got frauds like that playing in the pack. Coleman looks lost just like the team we have no go forward no attacking plan our 5th play tactics are woeful, remember people calling for Lyons and Gilmore to play together again can’t remember anything skilful or good they’ve done Lyons has been terrible and is simply not good enough it’s that simple. We need to improve fast but can’t see when or where that’s gonna happen 

AS its been said time and time again, no half backs can play behind a toothless pack, they need robust Middles and Back Rowers to drive their creativity. Nathan Cleary would look 'bang average' at WV

 

Paulie xx

 

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Posted : 27/05/2025 10:44 pm
(@prisoner)
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Posted by: @pauliewalnuts

Posted by: @johng

Just seen the highlights Kirk and Riley are a disgrace every week u can just run straight at that big dope Kirk and you fall over the line he has to be one of the worst forwards in the league he is absolutely useless has he ever broke a tackle? And don’t get me started on Riley most of the game he’s walking into tackles and makes next to no yards no wonder we can never get out our half when we’ve got frauds like that playing in the pack. Coleman looks lost just like the team we have no go forward no attacking plan our 5th play tactics are woeful, remember people calling for Lyons and Gilmore to play together again can’t remember anything skilful or good they’ve done Lyons has been terrible and is simply not good enough it’s that simple. We need to improve fast but can’t see when or where that’s gonna happen 

AS its been said time and time again, no half backs can play behind a toothless pack, they need robust Middles and Back Rowers to drive their creativity. Nathan Cleary would look 'bang average' at WV

 

Paulie xx

 

Garbage it's the halfbacks who control the forwards. We have very nearly the worst halfbacks in the league and until this changes we will struggle. We haven't had any decent halfbacks since Mellor an Brown. All this support cos they are Widnes lads is pathetic, as for  Cleary post of the year.

 

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Posted : 28/05/2025 9:58 am
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(@sinbad)
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You could say Lyons and Gilmore would be bang average at Penrith Panthers.

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Posted : 28/05/2025 10:04 am
(@farnworth-viking)
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They probably would be this season, Penrith are next to bottom 😁

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Posted : 28/05/2025 3:00 pm
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PaulieWalnuts
(@pauliewalnuts)
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Posted by: @prisoner

Posted by: @pauliewalnuts

Posted by: @johng

Just seen the highlights Kirk and Riley are a disgrace every week u can just run straight at that big dope Kirk and you fall over the line he has to be one of the worst forwards in the league he is absolutely useless has he ever broke a tackle? And don’t get me started on Riley most of the game he’s walking into tackles and makes next to no yards no wonder we can never get out our half when we’ve got frauds like that playing in the pack. Coleman looks lost just like the team we have no go forward no attacking plan our 5th play tactics are woeful, remember people calling for Lyons and Gilmore to play together again can’t remember anything skilful or good they’ve done Lyons has been terrible and is simply not good enough it’s that simple. We need to improve fast but can’t see when or where that’s gonna happen 

AS its been said time and time again, no half backs can play behind a toothless pack, they need robust Middles and Back Rowers to drive their creativity. Nathan Cleary would look 'bang average' at WV

 

Paulie xx

 

Garbage it's the halfbacks who control the forwards. We have very nearly the worst halfbacks in the league and until this changes we will struggle. We haven't had any decent halfbacks since Mellor an Brown. All this support cos they are Widnes lads is pathetic, as for  Cleary post of the year.

 

 

So by your reckoning we will see a big change when Patton (ex SL GF player) returns to the team?

It won't, because our Middles can't lay a decent platform for the Halves to play. There are only 2 forwards that have a half decent drive in them and that's Murray & Langtree. We need bigger bodies.

 

It's okay for us to disagree @prisoner, it's healthy debate.

 

Paulie xx

 

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Posted : 28/05/2025 3:52 pm
(@scouseviking55)
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I remember Kirk being better last year. I think the amount of concussion protocols he’s had it’s wiser for him to leave it at this point because I reckon there’s a concern or hesitation for him going into contact now.

 

Reilly I haven’t seen enough of but seems to be quite mistake ridden and too ‘off the cuff’ for my liking when his job is to cart the ball in, make good metres and tackle hard

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Posted : 28/05/2025 4:22 pm
(@sinbad)
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Posted by: @farnworth-viking

They probably would be this season, Penrith are next to bottom 😁

it was a typo for Canterbury Bulldogs. 😆 

 

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Posted : 28/05/2025 4:28 pm
(@prisoner)
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Posted by: @pauliewalnuts

Posted by: @prisoner

Posted by: @pauliewalnuts

Posted by: @johng

Just seen the highlights Kirk and Riley are a disgrace every week u can just run straight at that big dope Kirk and you fall over the line he has to be one of the worst forwards in the league he is absolutely useless has he ever broke a tackle? And don’t get me started on Riley most of the game he’s walking into tackles and makes next to no yards no wonder we can never get out our half when we’ve got frauds like that playing in the pack. Coleman looks lost just like the team we have no go forward no attacking plan our 5th play tactics are woeful, remember people calling for Lyons and Gilmore to play together again can’t remember anything skilful or good they’ve done Lyons has been terrible and is simply not good enough it’s that simple. We need to improve fast but can’t see when or where that’s gonna happen 

AS its been said time and time again, no half backs can play behind a toothless pack, they need robust Middles and Back Rowers to drive their creativity. Nathan Cleary would look 'bang average' at WV

 

Paulie xx

 

Garbage it's the halfbacks who control the forwards. We have very nearly the worst halfbacks in the league and until this changes we will struggle. We haven't had any decent halfbacks since Mellor an Brown. All this support cos they are Widnes lads is pathetic, as for  Cleary post of the year.

 

 

So by your reckoning we will see a big change when Patton (ex SL GF player) returns to the team?

It won't, because our Middles can't lay a decent platform for the Halves to play. There are only 2 forwards that have a half decent drive in them and that's Murray & Langtree. We need bigger bodies.

 

It's okay for us to disagree @prisoner, it's healthy debate.

 

Paulie xx

 

Patton not fit for purpose he may be ex SL so is Lyons and Gilmore he is no better than the other two at least Lyons puts in the effort, what came first the chicken or the egg. How many of the pack are AC signings ?.

 

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Posted : 28/05/2025 4:40 pm
PaulieWalnuts
(@pauliewalnuts)
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Posted by: @prisoner

Posted by: @pauliewalnuts

Posted by: @prisoner

Posted by: @pauliewalnuts

Posted by: @johng

Just seen the highlights Kirk and Riley are a disgrace every week u can just run straight at that big dope Kirk and you fall over the line he has to be one of the worst forwards in the league he is absolutely useless has he ever broke a tackle? And don’t get me started on Riley most of the game he’s walking into tackles and makes next to no yards no wonder we can never get out our half when we’ve got frauds like that playing in the pack. Coleman looks lost just like the team we have no go forward no attacking plan our 5th play tactics are woeful, remember people calling for Lyons and Gilmore to play together again can’t remember anything skilful or good they’ve done Lyons has been terrible and is simply not good enough it’s that simple. We need to improve fast but can’t see when or where that’s gonna happen 

AS its been said time and time again, no half backs can play behind a toothless pack, they need robust Middles and Back Rowers to drive their creativity. Nathan Cleary would look 'bang average' at WV

 

Paulie xx

 

Garbage it's the halfbacks who control the forwards. We have very nearly the worst halfbacks in the league and until this changes we will struggle. We haven't had any decent halfbacks since Mellor an Brown. All this support cos they are Widnes lads is pathetic, as for  Cleary post of the year.

 

 

So by your reckoning we will see a big change when Patton (ex SL GF player) returns to the team?

It won't, because our Middles can't lay a decent platform for the Halves to play. There are only 2 forwards that have a half decent drive in them and that's Murray & Langtree. We need bigger bodies.

 

It's okay for us to disagree @prisoner, it's healthy debate.

 

Paulie xx

 

Patton not fit for purpose he may be ex SL so is Lyons and Gilmore he is no better than the other two at least Lyons puts in the effort, what came first the chicken or the egg. How many of the pack are AC signings ?.

 

 

I'd say all apart from JJ, Foz Max R & Bent, off the top of my head. 

 

Paulie xx

 

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Posted : 28/05/2025 5:58 pm
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