I suppose you could argue that reducing it to 5m would allow for less of the 5 drives and a kick and more depth/craft in attacking play...
I suppose you could argue that reducing it to 5m would allow for less of the 5 drives and a kick and more depth/craft in attacking play…
It was in the 5 yd rule that we had the best half backs tbh. It would reduce momentum build up that arrises with the combined mass in motion of two players 10 metres apart.
Any activity that involves motion and sudden stops shakes the brain, hence the injury. There is a lot more research needed into many active sports before individual sports can be blamed imo.
The obvious physical collision could be reduced of course but at what cost to our favourite sports if its taken to the extreme. We might have to modify to touch rugby, fast, tricky, but no physical contact.
I suppose you could argue that reducing it to 5m would allow for less of the 5 drives and a kick and more depth/craft in attacking play…
It was in the 5 yd rule that we had the best half backs tbh. It would reduce momentum build up that arrises with the combined mass in motion of two players 10 metres apart. Any activity that involves motion and sudden stops shakes the brain, hence the injury. There is a lot more research needed into many active sports before individual sports can be blamed imo. The obvious physical collision could be reduced of course but at what cost to our favourite sports if its taken to the extreme. We might have to modify to touch rugby, fast, tricky, but no physical contact.
Would people pay £20+ to watch a game of Tick & Pass though? 🤔😬
We would be in a new world I'm afraid! Might even be girls in the team!
I had this random discussion with a Sports Lawyer on Twitter a while ago.It may stop the initial concussion, but the repeated impacts will still cause the same amount of damage in the long run.
Still good reason to make skull caps compulsory, if they 'only' prevent concussion.
Skull caps will do nothing to stop concussion, they are not designed for that, they will stop cuts and abrasions but thats all
The injuries are caused by the brain hitting the wall of the skull and the only effective thing would be something that absorbed the the impact itself like a crash helmet, so we would be in the realms of American Football type headgear before any noticeable benefit is achieved but then you get the additional injuries in other areas caused by the helmets themselves etc etc
There are some headguards that claim to absorb 75% of the impact force and spread it around but what manufacturers say and the reality is completely different
Skull caps will do nothing to stop concussion, they are not designed for that, they will stop cuts and abrasions but thats all The injuries are caused by the brain hitting the wall of the skull and the only effective thing would be something that absorbed the the impact itself like a crash helmet, so we would be in the realms of American Football type headgear before any noticeable benefit is achieved but then you get the additional injuries in other areas caused by the helmets themselves etc etc There are some headguards that claim to absorb 75% of the impact force and spread it around but what manufacturers say and the reality is completely different
Gridiron helmets are useless.
Loads of their former players are filing lawsuits against the NFL for the same thing.
Cuts and abrasions my arse.I'd rather clash heads wearing a padded covering against another player wearing a padded covering,than without.It's simple physics, a cushion reduces impact.Jump out of a high building onto a mattress or the concrete ground ?
Cuts and abrasions my arse.I’d rather clash heads wearing a padded covering against another player wearing a padded covering,than without.It’s simple physics, a cushion reduces impact.Jump out of a high building onto a mattress or the concrete ground ?
The problem with your bog standard skull cap is, they're actually quite dangerous.
If an opponent ripped it off a certain way, it could actually be a strangulation risk.
That's why you don't see many in the game any more.
The main point being made though, particularly by Bobbie, is negligence in aftercare. He's not pointing the finger at the nature of RL or any contact sport, it's more the lack of after-the-event expertise treatment and management of the condition that he didn't get. Those issues have been addressed via HIA etc. You don't get back on the field and you don't play next week if you're not right, and that's what didn't happen in Bobbie's playing days. A bit like Tommy Smith having no knees left as he used to get cortisone injection after injection rather than letting injuries heal; only much worse.
There must be hundreds of ex-players in the same boat.
Anyway, irrespective of the above discussion, the fact of the matter is relatively young blokes are dealing with conditions that they shouldn't be, all the best to them, good luck to Bobbie.
Cuts and abrasions my arse.I’d rather clash heads wearing a padded covering against another player wearing a padded covering,than without.It’s simple physics, a cushion reduces impact.Jump out of a high building onto a mattress or the concrete ground ?
The problem with your bog standard skull cap is, they’re actually quite dangerous. If an opponent ripped it off a certain way, it could actually be a strangulation risk. That’s why you don’t see many in the game any more.
yeah - I remember the season when 18 players died of strangulation by head gear 😁😁
The main point being made though, particularly by Bobbie, is negligence in aftercare. He’s not pointing the finger at the nature of RL or any contact sport, it’s more the lack of after-the-event expertise treatment and management of the condition that he didn’t get. Those issues have been addressed via HIA etc. You don’t get back on the field and you don’t play next week if you’re not right, and that’s what didn’t happen in Bobbie’s playing days. A bit like Tommy Smith having no knees left as he used to get cortisone injection after injection rather than letting injuries heal; only much worse. There must be hundreds of ex-players in the same boat. Anyway, irrespective of the above discussion, the fact of the matter is relatively young blokes are dealing with conditions that they shouldn’t be, all the best to them, good luck to Bobbie.
Not sure what after care players, like Bobbie, could've received.
Once you've taken repeated clouts to the head, the damage has already been done.
As for continuing playing whilst not over the effects of concussion, that can't be blamed on anyone other than the player himself.
If you went out for a big session on a Saturday Night, and woke up still drunk.
Would you get behind the wheel of your car that morning???
I'm guessing not.
So, why is personal safety in sport any different???
Back in the day, what do you think would have happened to players who had said "I'm not going back on the field today" or "I'm not prepared to play next week"?
Back in the day, what do you think would have happened to players who had said “I’m not going back on the field today” or “I’m not prepared to play next week”?
I could imagine that sort of thing happening in the 1950's and 1960's, but certainly not the 1990's.
I played Amateur Rugby League myself in the early '90s, Duty of Care even back then (both from a personal and team prospective) was excellent.
Cuts and abrasions my arse.I’d rather clash heads wearing a padded covering against another player wearing a padded covering,than without.It’s simple physics, a cushion reduces impact.Jump out of a high building onto a mattress or the concrete ground ?
There are multiple studies done by the RU and medical profession that show they do absolutely nothing to stop concussion due to the way the injury is received via a whiplash effect
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/6158046/Headgear-won-t-protect-players-from-concussion