@anotherposter nice mate, do you have the link for those stats so I know where they came from?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-surveillance-reports
Scotland publishes a weekly report, they can all be found here if you want to aggregate the data yourself
https://publichealthscotland.scot/publications/?q=&fq=topics%3ACoronavirus+%28COVID-19%29%23
maybe while your looking at data you might be interested in this as well, the data for that can be found here
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions
another thing you dont see on the news
Desmond Swayne has been described as the Muhammad Ali of stupid in a recent article for his speech, using totally inaccurate statistics to support his argument.
What Starmer has done this week is to highlight the splits in the Conservative Party and the growing negativity towards Johnson. An astute political move, whilst also showing that they place the interests of the nation's health, based on the scientific advice, above party politics.
Swayne was described as that for the quote GPO highlighted, from the same publication that ran the headline Rittenhouse was acquitted of killing 3 black men so the hypocrisy meter is running high on that one, like everyone who goes against the fear porn narrative of the MSM he ridiculed and demonised whilst at the same time Dr Hilary, Kevin McGuire and numerous other "guests" appear on TV telling blatant lies without so much as peep in the media
Whether you agree with or not or even if Starmer agrees with him is not the point, this government introduced further restrictions , segregation, mandates and destructive policy without:
Consulting parliament
Ignoring all real time data from SA that shows the "variant" which has magically picked up genetic code from the common cold and has the same symptoms , has been around for months with no real issues and whilst highly transmissable is mild
Ignored data from the WHO which showed that infection rate was being driven by young , double vaccinated people
Ignored data from the US that showed all of their cases wee double and triple vaccinated
Did not consult the UKHSA about what they planned
But instead took their actions based on the Gates Foundation funded Neil Ferguson, IC and Chris Whitty with further advice from SAGE of whom all but 3 are also GF funded
Starmer should at least be asking serious questions about these conflict of interest before rolling over to have his belly tickled
and whilst on the subject of Sturgeon and Scotland, they have had similar "restrictions" in place since October , the latest data from PHS up to the beginning of December showed that over the last 4 months 9 out of 10 deaths in Scotland were double and triple vaccinated....something else the MSM dont mention
You highlight a serious issue here which I too am concerned about. The concentration of too much power and influence in too few hands around the world.
Bill Gates is giving Billions to organisations around the World. He is giving hundreds of millions to news organisations around the World to promote stories and issues he has an interest in. He gave at least 319 Million Dollars last year to various news organisations. The largest known donation was to the Guardian but he also gave money to the BBC. The BBC should not be accepting money from Gates to promote stories and allow him to exercise undue influence. They are funded by everyone in this country Gates should not have undue influence over the BBC.
Gates is heavily implicated in the Jeffrey Epstein Scandal having spent lots of time as Epstein's New York Townhouse and elsewhere, this went on for years. This was after Epstein had been convicted of soliciting a minor for prostitution in Florida. (Epstein should have been put away for 30 years in 2008). Watch the Gates PBS interview with Julie Woodruff where she suddenly switched to this watch. Listen to his non answers.
This guy should not be treated like some sort of demi god. Have you heard this from the BBC. He should not be being interviewed as an expert on Covid Vaccination and Climate Change or advising Governments including ours on these matters. He should be being held accountable for his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
Prince Andrew is being used as cover by the FBI, American and British Media for the likes of Trump, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Harvey Weinstein, Leon Black and many many others.
Prince Andrew is alleged to have gone to Tramp Night Club with Victoria Roberts before she was forced to have sex with him in Ghilaine Maxwells house in London. He had Royal Protection Officers with him in London. It is not hard to check on the merits of this story. The crime if their was one was in London. Whey are we waiting for the Americans, if he did it put him on trial if a crime was committed in the UK before a UK court. Then the FBI and the Americans can go after the Americans Citizens who reside in America whom they can interview without going through the authoroties in London.
Those stats don't support your argument though. You say there are more vaccinated people getting and being hospitalised with Covid, and you're right. But vaccinated people now make up 89% of the population.
If you had 89 Widnesians in a room and 11 Runcornians, 2 of the Widnesians had Covid and 1 of the Runcornians did, who would you say was over-represented?
Those stats don't support your argument though. You say there are more vaccinated people getting and being hospitalised with Covid, and you're right. But vaccinated people now make up 89% of the population.
If you had 89 Widnesians in a room and 11 Runcornians, 2 of the Widnesians had Covid and 1 of the Runcornians did, who would you say was over-represented?
Of course they support the argument
The Government has introduced another policy that restricts people from going into places and employment based purely on their vaccinated status when the vaccine doesnt work.
They said it was 93% effective at stopping infection when it first came out, then 96.1% after two doses, then they said although their are breakthrough cases you dont hold the virus, then you dont have as much of the virus, then you dont get as sick, lie after lie after lie
People have now had their 3rd shot inside 12 months and are still getting infected and transmitting it but are allowed work in Care homes and the NHS and go anywhere with impunity as long as they can show they are vaccinated irrespective of whether they are infectious or not
Its a punitive measure designed to punish people
While Javid once again appears on the news telling lies to cover his Governments failure, passing blame wherever he can, the reason hospitals are full is because they are full of elderly people who cannot be transferred to care homes as they now have a staffing crisis due to the first mandate
When the same thing happens in the NHS in April no doubt a new variant or some other factor will be rolled out to blame at the same time as they are telling you that a 4th dose is needed, just like is happening in Israel now, the most vaccinated country in the world.
Hypocrite?
Nutty Nicola is once again pushing for another Indyref, and October next year has been mentioned, but......
As the Eurovision Song Contest Final can't be held in the Ukraine next year for obvious reasons, the UK has been approached to host it, and the SNP leader has moved in early suggesting Glasgow be the venue. So.......
She wants Scotland to be an independent nation, yet will be happy for it to stage a comp on behalf of the UK!
I accept that if it came to pass, it'd be a nice monetary boost for the biggest city north of the border, but............
I ask again.........
Hypocrite?
Spelly.
Hypocrite?
Nutty Nicola is once again pushing for another Indyref, and October next year has been mentioned, but......
As the Eurovision Song Contest Final can't be held in the Ukraine next year for obvious reasons, the UK has been approached to host it, and the SNP leader has moved in early suggesting Glasgow be the venue. So.......
She wants Scotland to be an independent nation, yet will be happy for it to stage a comp on behalf of the UK!
I accept that if it came to pass, it'd be a nice monetary boost for the biggest city north of the border, but............
I ask again.........
Hypocrite?
Spelly.
She's definitely a Hypocrite 🤣
If she wants Glasgow to host Eurovision next year, there should be a proviso attached that Scotland themselves have to fund the event.
If they want independence so badly, then let them pay their own way...
I'm guessing that's not going to happen though... 🤣🤣🤣
So she's set a date of October 19th next year eh?
As far as I can gather, it's not set in stone yet that it'll happen, but if it does come to pass, and they (again) go to the polls.................
I sincerely hope that the citizens of our United Kingdom who reside north of Hadrian's Wall, will for a second time, say "No!" and this apology for a politician will then have no option but to resign, and disappear!
Spelly.
She's got a sensible outlook though.....
In an interview with BBC Scotland, the first minister said: "Scotland can't become independent without a majority of people voting for it".
Glad she cleared that one up!!
Looks like Nutty Nicola is gonna get no support at all for Indyref 2 from either Truss or Sunak!
I agree with the Tories on precious little, but it looks like the two leadership candidates see eye to eye with yours truly on this one!
As I've said many times before, Glasgow, Dundee, and John O'Groats, are as British as are Widnes, Swinton, and Monton!
Spelly.
Yet, after listening to those liars for an hour, who probably had to be pointed in the general direction of where Scotland actually is, and who have been complicit in ignoring the needs and wants of Scots in the current Govt but are now full of solutions, if I was Scottish I would be even more committed to the independence cause. They must feel even more ignored and removed from Westminster than it feels here in the North of England.
Yet, after listening to those liars for an hour, who probably had to be pointed in the general direction of where Scotland actually is, and who have been complicit in ignoring the needs and wants of Scots in the current Govt but are now full of solutions, if I was Scottish I would be even more committed to the independence cause. They must feel even more ignored and removed from Westminster than it feels here in the North of England.
She / they keep harping on about "Scotland voted Remain!" But...........
The indisputable fact is that AFTER Indyref 1 declared that the majority of Scots voted to retain the Union, and continue to be part of the UK, a UK referendum was held on Brexit, meaning we're out. Or is it outish?
I voted Remain, and would do so again, but I accept(ed) that more thought otherwise, than agreed with me, so why can't Sturgeon and Co?
I see Glasgow is on the UK's short list to host Eurovision next year. If it's held there, will she come up with summat like this? "Scotland hosted the contest!"
Give it up Nicola. coz you're pissing into the wind!
Spelly.
I watched her keynote speech to the party faithful today, and (as with Truss and Starmer) it was followed by the stage managed standing ovation, but...........
She was preaching to the converted, so the outcome was 101% inevitable!
She (for the millionth time) said "Scotland was taken out of the EU against its will." But..................
As I've said before, the Brexit referendum was UK wide, and came after the Scots voted the remain within the Union.
I voted remain, but unlike Nutty Nicola, I accepted that democracy had its say, and there were more UK citizens who disagreed with me than agreed.
During her address, I lost count on the number of times she mentioned "independent" and "independence" and provisionally set a date of October 19 next year for Indyref 2.
We share a language, a monarch, a currency, and I hope her fellow Scots, again say "No" and Ms S will be obliged to fall on her sword, and this United Kingdom, will remain united!
Spelly.
Fitstly, I couldn’t care less about Eurovision. Secondly, I detest Tories , Unionists and everything they stand for. Who is this Spelly guy ? I couldn’t care less about Swinton. It’s clear that Unionist politicians are covetous of Scotlands resources. Wars will be fought over water alone in future .There is more water in loch lomond than the whole of England. What other reasons do unionists want for holding on to Scotland ?
Is’nt it time for England to stand on it’s own feet ?
Fitstly, I couldn’t care less about Eurovision. Secondly, I detest Tories , Unionists and everything they stand for. Who is this Spelly guy ? I couldn’t care less about Swinton. It’s clear that Unionist politicians are covetous of Scotlands resources. Wars will be fought over water alone in future .There is more water in loch lomond than the whole of England. What other reasons do unionists want for holding on to Scotland ?
Is’nt it time for England to stand on it’s own feet ?
Firstly, could I ask you why you brought Swinton into this particular scenario? This is the Other Topics page, where non RL subjects are discussed, but..........
I fully accept that your opinions differ to mine on Scottish independence.
You ask "Isn't it time for England to stand on its own feet?" My answer to that is that it's (still) time for this sceptered isle of ours to remain united.
Wars will be fought over water? A bit extreme in my opinion, but time will tell if (and it's still a very big if) independence becomes a reality.
You're not a big fan of the blue faction, and I'm with you 101% there.
You ask Who is this Spelly guy? I am a member of this board, have been for many years, and thus entitled to voice opinions on here. As are you, I hasten to add.
Spelly.