Wasn't it Swayne who said more people had been killed in car crashes than by Covid?
Well it looks like she's set a deadline of by the end of 2023 for Indyref 2 eh? Yawwwwwwn!
The Scots are British! The Welsh are British! As are those people in "our bit" across the water! We are a United Kingdom, and this fool of a woman seems intent on dis-uniting it!
We're forever hearing that "Scotland voted to remain in EC." No they didn't! Previous to that, the Scots in Indyref 1 voted to retain the Union, and the referendum was a UK one, not just for those north of Hadrian's Wall! P2, L2 on referenda for Ms Sturgeon!
I personally voted remain, and was disappointed at the outcome, but I accept(ed) the democratic result. I don't harp on with "Monton voted remain."
If there is a second vote up there (and it's nowhere near set in stone yet) I hope the Scots again see sense, as she'll be then obliged to "do an Alex Salmond" and fall on her sword!
Spelly.
If you did a survey in the streets you will not get that answer. Just as you would not get from myself and everyone i know. I am English not British, even abroad I get called English, the Scots Scottish etc. You seem to be a dying breed not realising that not many call themselves British.
Well it looks like she's set a deadline of by the end of 2023 for Indyref 2 eh? Yawwwwwwn!
The Scots are British! The Welsh are British! As are those people in "our bit" across the water! We are a United Kingdom, and this fool of a woman seems intent on dis-uniting it!
We're forever hearing that "Scotland voted to remain in EC." No they didn't! Previous to that, the Scots in Indyref 1 voted to retain the Union, and the referendum was a UK one, not just for those north of Hadrian's Wall! P2, L2 on referenda for Ms Sturgeon!
I personally voted remain, and was disappointed at the outcome, but I accept(ed) the democratic result. I don't harp on with "Monton voted remain."
If there is a second vote up there (and it's nowhere near set in stone yet) I hope the Scots again see sense, as she'll be then obliged to "do an Alex Salmond" and fall on her sword!
Spelly.
If you did a survey in the streets you will not get that answer. Just as you would not get from myself and everyone i know. I am English not British, even abroad I get called English, the Scots Scottish etc. You seem to be a dying breed not realising that not many call themselves British.
So (yes or no) should Scotland (in your opinion) be independent, and if so..............
What about the Welsh, and / or, those people who dwell in the six counties on the other side of the Irish Sea?
You say you're English, but I would suggest your passport says otherwise.
The Scots share our currency, so will they switch to the Euro if (hopefully not) they vote to re-build Hadrian's Wall?
The obsession with independence cost Salmond his job, so possibly (but I won't hold my breath) his successor may see sense, before it has a similar effect on her!
Spelly - British till I die!
Wasn't it Swayne who said more people had been killed in car crashes than by Covid?
He did, with an "at the moment" caveat but the MSM seem to have missed that, he also highlighted that on a typical winters day 350 people died from flu but we didnt all hide away , shut down the economy, force vaccinations on people, or sack them, we didnt even notice because it was not rammed down our throats 24 hours a day
He called out the Government as "the ministry of fear" using what "might be" instead of reality and highlighted that they had been massively wrong in everyone of their previous predictions and modelling scenarios but the damage that has been done is real, he called out the "independent" members of SAGE and their vested interest in keeping this going by twisting the fear factor on MSM and as the government is complicit in this with the officials and organsations that have delivered and designed it, it is now at their mercy losing any semblance of social democracy and fully at risk of the opinions and predictions of the advisors of "independent" companies and organisations
Desmond Swayne has been described as the Muhammad Ali of stupid in a recent article for his speech, using totally inaccurate statistics to support his argument.
What is this so called charisma? Does Boris Johnson have it? Did Jeremy Corbyn have it? How about Michael Gove? Ed Milliband? Gordon Brown?
Starmer has wiped the floor with Boris Johnson in almost every PMQ. The attacks on Starmer's character are coming from disgruntled left wingers in the Labour Party, still dreaming of their socialist revolution under the guise of a Labour Party hijacked by Corbynites, with more of an allegiance to the Socialist Revolutionary Workers' Party. Labour was unelectable under the hapless Corbyn. Tony Blair has been demonised by the left wing for his disastrous Iraq venture, but he knew how to make Labour electable.
What Starmer has done this week is to highlight the splits in the Conservative Party and the growing negativity towards Johnson. An astute political move, whilst also showing that they place the interests of the nation's health, based on the scientific advice, above party politics.
Starmer's most difficult job will be to defend against attacks from within the Labour Party. If he can win that battle and then concentrate on making the Labour Party electable again, maybe there is a small chance of a Labour victory at the next election. If not, the Labour Party will split and probably never be able to make a serious challenge for Government.
To get back to the actual topic, let the Scots decide whether they will benefit from independence, hopefully based on the true facts.
It seems to me that the there is growing opposition to the independence movement within Scotland. The SNP are fixated with the idea of independence and failing in their current governance of Scotland. Maybe the next move by Sturgeon will be to have a battle bus, with a slogan "Get Independence done" and promising £350m a week to the Scottish health service; or has that been done already?
Desmond Swayne has been described as the Muhammad Ali of stupid in a recent article for his speech, using totally inaccurate statistics to support his argument.
What Starmer has done this week is to highlight the splits in the Conservative Party and the growing negativity towards Johnson. An astute political move, whilst also showing that they place the interests of the nation's health, based on the scientific advice, above party politics.
Swayne was described as that for the quote GPO highlighted, from the same publication that ran the headline Rittenhouse was acquitted of killing 3 black men so the hypocrisy meter is running high on that one, like everyone who goes against the fear porn narrative of the MSM he ridiculed and demonised whilst at the same time Dr Hilary, Kevin McGuire and numerous other "guests" appear on TV telling blatant lies without so much as peep in the media
Whether you agree with or not or even if Starmer agrees with him is not the point, this government introduced further restrictions , segregation, mandates and destructive policy without:
Consulting parliament
Ignoring all real time data from SA that shows the "variant" which has magically picked up genetic code from the common cold and has the same symptoms , has been around for months with no real issues and whilst highly transmissable is mild
Ignored data from the WHO which showed that infection rate was being driven by young , double vaccinated people
Ignored data from the US that showed all of their cases wee double and triple vaccinated
Did not consult the UKHSA about what they planned
But instead took their actions based on the Gates Foundation funded Neil Ferguson, IC and Chris Whitty with further advice from SAGE of whom all but 3 are also GF funded
Starmer should at least be asking serious questions about these conflict of interest before rolling over to have his belly tickled
and whilst on the subject of Sturgeon and Scotland, they have had similar "restrictions" in place since October , the latest data from PHS up to the beginning of December showed that over the last 4 months 9 out of 10 deaths in Scotland were double and triple vaccinated....something else the MSM dont mention
There's lot of claims in there and, I really hope they're true. Can you send your absolute proven links please so that I know it's not just poor interpretation. You must understand why people need absolute confirmation of claims like yours so, let us know and we're on the same page then. Thanks, can't wait.
Whenever you're ready obvs. It's a mad world we live in but you sound so clinical in your evidence, this shouldn't take long.
There's lot of claims in there and, I really hope they're true. Can you send your absolute proven links please so that I know it's not just poor interpretation. You must understand why people need absolute confirmation of claims like yours so, let us know and we're on the same page then. Thanks, can't wait.
What is it you want verification of ?
@gpo1971 and just in case you have heard Javid lying on the news today saying thevast majority in hospital are unvaccinated, Englands latest hospital admissions
Anything else ?
@anotherposter nice mate, do you have the link for those stats so I know where they came from?