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(@sandgroper)
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Couldn't support P/R with a hybrid game tbh.

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Posted : 08/07/2020 8:30 am
(@gpo1971)
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I suspect they need, and are waiting for, a Government instruction on attended sporting events. There's no way Championship games can be played behind closed doors, it's not financially viable. The RFL should issue a blanket statement saying that, until the Govt advise otherwise about attended events, there will be no resumption of the Championship. The crunch time will be when the furlough scheme ends and there are still no speccies at games. How will players be paid? I don't think the Govt will introduce a ceiling limit on attendee numbers as it doesn't help the big sports, I think it will be all or nothing; which might mean no games this year. So, who's paying the players after October?

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Posted : 09/07/2020 10:25 am
(@sandgroper)
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The same body who would have paid them after the season ended I guess. Clubs will have to sort out what to do about Season Tickets for next year. Our clubs outgoings will have been pretty low, certainly lower than ground owner clubs.

Fan loyalty/financial abilty will be tested yet again. Many will stump up if they can, me included, but some will have been stretched and won't be able to, particularly if the kids come along.

I feel sure that the board will do their level best to satisfy all and to stay solvent, which is all that we can expect them to do.

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Posted : 09/07/2020 11:16 am
(@gpo1971)
Honorable Member

Looking at the way the economy is headed and with the continued uncertainty surrounding people's jobs, I'd say any sport that is dependent on turnstile cash is going to struggle now. You'd have to expect reduced season ticket sales for next year, at all clubs. And the knock-on effect of that will be some cut their cloth (or cut their cloth further) but others will simply fold. That might be a lot of RL clubs.

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Posted : 09/07/2020 12:13 pm
(@gpo1971)
Honorable Member

The same body who would have paid them after the season ended I guess.

But, for players, their contracts might ordinarily be paid weekly/monthly over 12 months but are based on and offset against the annual income of the club; like any business. The club hasn't had any real income since March and that position won't have changed by the time furlough ends in October. So, where will clubs get the money from to pay players post-furlough?

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Posted : 09/07/2020 12:23 pm
(@sandgroper)
Noble Member

Without detailled knowledge of the club's financial arrangements we can't even guess, but our non-contract expenses will be low, we have the ST cash in the bank, plus RFL cash (if any!). We also have VIQI in support of course though that wasn't it's original purpose.

A decision on the game tbis year would at least give clubs a firm picture and enable them to make some decisions. We also need to plan for next year's contracts and administrative and playing staff.

What is the RFL's take on things? Are they likely to loan cash from the £16 m to tide clubs over, or is that to help fund SL new signings?

Once the future for this year is known the club may poll the ST holders regarding their situation. I am sure that many will offer the remaing ST cash as a donation.That can be verified, but only after decisions outside the club's remit have been taken.

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Posted : 09/07/2020 12:47 pm
(@frankg)
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Re season tickets, nothing can happen until a final decision is made on the resumption of the season and, if so,  whether any games will be open to spectators.

Leeds have offered a refund for games cancelled; a rebate on next year's season ticket; or for anyone not seeking any refund, they will have their season ticket price frozen for 2021; hospitality at a game next year; and entered into a prize draw for  behind the scenes tour at the ground with Kevin Sinfield, prior to a game next year. This seems to be a sensible approach.

I would be interested in hearing news from the club about players leaving and those offered new contracts for 2021. Again, this may well be dependant on a decision about resumption of the game this year and when crowds are likely to be allowed at games.

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Posted : 09/07/2020 1:11 pm
(@frankg)
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A Leeds based solicitor has suggested that any team relegated from SL would have grounds for a legal challenge in view of the disruption caused by the covid-19, but suggests that promotion from the Championship to make a 13-team SL would be acceptable.

Surely, the disruption has an equal impact on the Championship/League 1 season and it would be unfair on those clubs who have players missing or impacted by local lockdowns, if they miss out on promotion.

The RFL just need to make a decision and stand-up to any threats of legal action. At least if the Championship season is curtailed, we can then plan for next season in the hope that that games can be played in front of paying spectators. That is, of course, assuming that the club survives the financial impact of the virus. I guess that a few may not survive.

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Posted : 09/07/2020 6:33 pm
(@sandgroper)
Noble Member

Rather thsn play a scrumless game, which probably wouldn't attract a crowd anyway, scrap the league when furlough ceases, assemble next years squad and concentrate on a longer and more intense pre-season than we have ever had, under TS.

We could well have an advantage in that we have already had the shock of administration resulting in our shedding all but the absolute minimum of staff. At least half of our support see ST holders and that is in the bank atm. Admittedly there may have to be some refund or donation or reduced ST price next year but that can only be decided then.

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Posted : 09/07/2020 9:46 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
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Fans possibly allowed back in October, furlough ends at the end of that month.

Start a new season in late November?

Or try to play an abridged 2020 season anyway?

 

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Posted : 17/07/2020 1:53 pm
(@frankg)
Noble Member

Rather than re-start an  abridged season in October, it would make more sense to abandon the 2020 season and start again in February. There is unlikely to be promotion/relegation anyway, so there will be little point.

As has been said, we could assemble the 2021 squad after furlough ends and start pre-season, with a few friendlies in December/January.

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Posted : 17/07/2020 4:25 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
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LE reporting no P/R to be confirmed by Thursday, RFL wanting a £300k settlement which will go towards the running of an autumn competition.

Some clubs (I presume Leigh and Featherstone), unhappy at this.

Autumn Competition: an extra Cup or a shortened League with the Proper League starting in Feb?

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Posted : 20/07/2020 1:04 pm
(@sandgroper)
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Settlement from whom?

Any P/R would be a nonsense after a year like this one.  Mind you clubs have been relegated in irregular circumstances (ie not being bottom of the table) IIRC!

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Posted : 20/07/2020 3:08 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
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£300k from Super League.

So that would be £12k per club if split amongst the non SL clubs, although SL want it using as Prize Money for meaningful competition.....

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Posted : 20/07/2020 3:26 pm
(@kyosei)
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It is for Toronto

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Posted : 20/07/2020 3:30 pm
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