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(@gpo1971)
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If, as looks likely, there are no more attended UK sports events in 2020, can RL of any level afford to stage a game?

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Posted : 12/06/2020 1:10 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
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Degsy proposing a 16 team SL this year with 4 to go down....

Wow.

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Posted : 13/06/2020 12:43 pm
(@frankg)
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Degsy proposing a 16 team SL this year with 4 to go down…. Wow.

He seems to be getting more desperate. I wonder who he thinks should be the extra 4 teams? Maybe Toulouse, London, Bradford and Widnes!!

I can't see there being any Championship/League 1 games this year unless the covid virus restrictions are lifted by the end of August, which seems highly unlikely at the moment.

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Posted : 13/06/2020 8:43 pm
(@sandgroper)
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If it was handled properly we could probably play games with access for season ticket holders only using both main stands and spacing out. Sounds a bit odd, but somebody is going to have to move at some point!

Furlough will end at some point and we might then get started preparing for next season if this one is scrapped.

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Posted : 14/06/2020 5:27 am
(@frankg)
Noble Member

There is an RFL meeting tomorrow to consider the 2020 Championship/League 1 season re-start.

Apparently one owner (Beaumont?) threatening legal action if there is no re-start. Toulouse have proposed a re-start in the Championship with clubs retaining existing points and playing each other once, with a top 5 play-off. Would they be so keen for a re-start, if promotion to SL was taken off the table?

Maybe there could be some scope for a return of spectators with the reduction in the social distancing to one metre, but could clubs still afford to pay for testing and how many people will turn up to games.

Maybe Leigh. Featherstone and Toulouse will agree to subsidise other clubs by meeting any testing costs? Probably not, but it will be academic as there is unlikely to be an relegation from or promotion to SL in 2020.

 

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Posted : 23/06/2020 12:52 pm
(@sandgroper)
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Does seem like a lost cause tbh. We are not out of the wood yet by any means, no matter how Boris might dress it up. Trying to cheer the lads on under a mask isn't an inviting prospect!

If there is to be no real target of promotion the games are more or less friendlies to get some cash back in the coffers and give us an afternoon out. Both laudable aims, but at what risk?

It must be hard for Degsy to take and I have some sympathy, but any sport is a chancy business, ask Djokovitch!!!

 

 

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Posted : 24/06/2020 8:06 am
(@torn-sock-1)
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Down to government regs I guess, but almost all teams could handle social distancing due to low crowds as a % of ground capacity! Especially with it being a family sport.

Then it's a case of cleaning everything etc. If teams are on the bones of their arses all the time though, even a small drop in crowds due to people being put off/vulnerable/still shielding etc. this will mean that they will struggle financially even if it does restart.

Legal action - Hilarious. What's he going to do? Sue the RFL who don't have a pot to piss in? Not like they were runaway leaders with a handful of games to go, in which case he might have had a bit of a point.

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Posted : 24/06/2020 9:07 am
(@farnworth-viking)
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They are hoping to have 25% capacity at football matches from September, Widnes could probably manage that, spreading about 3,000 fans over the 4 stands, but most of the teams in our division have mostly terracing, so I don’t think they could keep fans 1 meter apart, especially when your team get close to the line or score. They might manage it in SL but not the championship.

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Posted : 24/06/2020 7:39 pm
(@frankg)
Noble Member

No decision today from the meeting of League 1/Championship clubs who seem to have passed the matter to the RFL. Newcastle, Leigh and Featherstone pushing for resumption, but I guess that this will be on the basis that there is still an opportunity for promotion.

I hope that the league resumes and Leigh have their usual mid-season crash and miss out on promotion anyway. I'll bet McDermott would welcome a big city team like Featherstone to SL.

It looks like SL will resume in August, which should include relegation. On this basis, Championship/League 1 could resume again with promotion and relegation. RFL (not individual clubs) should agree to meet any additional testing costs of League 1/Championship clubs from the Government loan. Of course, Beaumont and Noble would waive any support as those clubs can clearly afford the resumption of the league.

The RFL could meet the costs of the loan from staff savings by bringing RFL/SL management under one umbrella - and perhaps reviewing whether they can afford or justify salaries of £300.000/£400,000 to the Chief Executive.

You never know, SL clubs may agree to give a bigger share of the Sky money to League 1/Championship clubs to offset loss of gate money, but I guess not.

Irrespective of that, will Widnes and other League 1 (Newcastle) and Championship clubs be able to fulfil the CC sixth round games, which presumably will be televised and some income generated.

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Posted : 25/06/2020 6:26 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
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Would we take our players off furlough to play a Challenge Cup tie with no fans?

I wouldn't personally. If we have to we must be compensated.

Also, if there is no promotion (has this been decided yet?) what is the point of playing a bunch of friendlies?

If fans are allowed in by the start of November and the end of the furlough, then why not start a new season then, could even revamp the 1895 into the old style NRC Group stage adding 3 extra home fixtures, (more games for season ticket holders) start the league maybe on New Years Day.....

 

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Posted : 27/06/2020 12:52 pm
(@sandgroper)
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As you say CJ, there are options and the SL/RFL need to make some decisions asap. Problem is that everyone is nervous about the way that the unlocking process might go.

We need every penny to prepare well for next year. No point in wasting money on a lost cause.

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Posted : 28/06/2020 10:46 am
(@frankg)
Noble Member

What is it with the RFL - no decision on promotion and relegation and further delay in any decision on resuming the Championship/League 1 season.  What is going to change in the next two seeks to enable them to make a decision?

They have made some rule changes, including scrapping scrums for the rest of the season. Whilst I think the scrums in the modern game are a complete farce, removing the scrums is a fundamental change to the nature of the game Why not just play tick and pas, as players in a tackle probably have greater contact than in a scrum. I suppose that we should be thankful that they are capable of making any decisions.

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Posted : 06/07/2020 6:49 pm
(@sandgroper)
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Couldn't support P/R with a hybrid game tbh.

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Posted : 08/07/2020 8:30 am
(@gpo1971)
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I suspect they need, and are waiting for, a Government instruction on attended sporting events. There's no way Championship games can be played behind closed doors, it's not financially viable. The RFL should issue a blanket statement saying that, until the Govt advise otherwise about attended events, there will be no resumption of the Championship. The crunch time will be when the furlough scheme ends and there are still no speccies at games. How will players be paid? I don't think the Govt will introduce a ceiling limit on attendee numbers as it doesn't help the big sports, I think it will be all or nothing; which might mean no games this year. So, who's paying the players after October?

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Posted : 09/07/2020 10:25 am
(@sandgroper)
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The same body who would have paid them after the season ended I guess. Clubs will have to sort out what to do about Season Tickets for next year. Our clubs outgoings will have been pretty low, certainly lower than ground owner clubs.

Fan loyalty/financial abilty will be tested yet again. Many will stump up if they can, me included, but some will have been stretched and won't be able to, particularly if the kids come along.

I feel sure that the board will do their level best to satisfy all and to stay solvent, which is all that we can expect them to do.

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Posted : 09/07/2020 11:16 am
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