Fine, you keep burying your head in the sand as we all know the club can do no wrong in some peoples eyes. There were rumours everywhere that we were not payng bills and about to go bust when Jimmy and co were in charge and people wouldnt believe it then either until the administrators were called in.
The fact that I called it a rumour means unproven and may or may not be true. Almost everything on this board is rumour and opinion. Maybe people can form their own opinion on a rumour.
The statement from the club itself says they want full control of the cash rather than being told as they are now that it must be used on players only. Income has been massively reduced with diminishing attendances. They have been taking a big loss on merchandise with loads of last seasons kits still available at a fiver when the club would have paid top doller for them. At the moment they cant touch the £120k or so that fans have given to Viqi as it is ringfenced for new players or improved contracts. Its obvious to snybody with one eye that the club want the fans to give them the money directly so they can use it whatever way they want.
It's called blind faith mate. There's probably some people out there still think Jimmy Fool & The Charlatans were misunderstood
Not blind faith at all, and I was one of the people who made sure their wrong doings were kept to the fore as it happens.
I'll say it again, you have NO evidence that the CURRENT custodians of the club are in any way 'desperate' to get their hands on viqi subscribers income, or that they can't pay their bills. Until that becomes a matter of public domain, repeating / copying rumours and making false statements like that will make sure donations fall, and make our current league position and chances of SL rugby even worse.
Fine, you keep burying your head in the sand as we all know the club can do no wrong in some peoples eyes. There were rumours everywhere that we were not payng bills and about to go bust when Jimmy and co were in charge and people wouldnt believe it then either until the administrators were called in.
The fact that I called it a rumour means unproven and may or may not be true. Almost everything on this board is rumour and opinion. Maybe people can form their own opinion on a rumour.
The statement from the club itself says they want full control of the cash rather than being told as they are now that it must be used on players only. Income has been massively reduced with diminishing attendances. They have been taking a big loss on merchandise with loads of last seasons kits still available at a fiver when the club would have paid top doller for them. At the moment they cant touch the £120k or so that fans have given to Viqi as it is ringfenced for new players or improved contracts. Its obvious to snybody with one eye that the club want the fans to give them the money directly so they can use it whatever way they want.
It's called blind faith mate. There's probably some people out there still think Jimmy Fool & The Charlatans were misunderstood
It’s not a matter of blind faith and whether or not we are or aren’t paying the bills in 2022 has nothing to do with swindlers and conmen who ran the club in the recent past.
As the poster himself has said he posted a rumour of social media. Again as he said, it might prove true or it might prove false. From my perspective I see it as just malicious gossip which I don’t like.
As I say, me not liking malicious gossip doesn’t mean I think the current bunch are doing a good job (read my posts over the last 18 months) and it doesn’t change my opinions of the O’Connor, Rule and associated clowns mis-management of the club.
There are lots of things wrong with the club but making up rumours on social media to add fuel to the fire just isn’t right (and I’m not saying @Toeknee was the person who made them up by the way).
Just thought I’d clear up on any misunderstanding.
There have been posts on this board which appear to be primarily personal differences and do nobody any good tbh.
Be that as it may it is very possible that there are, out there in Anonymous Land, any number of posters who would like nothing more than to see VIQI, the club generally and all its supporters out of existence. Quite what they have against any of us is in their heads but passing on or adding to their rumours benefits none of the genuine supporters who are our usual contributors.
Whilst I don't agree with them all I am happy that our usual posters are real supporters.
Fine, you keep burying your head in the sand as we all know the club can do no wrong in some peoples eyes. There were rumours everywhere that we were not payng bills and about to go bust when Jimmy and co were in charge and people wouldnt believe it then either until the administrators were called in.
The fact that I called it a rumour means unproven and may or may not be true. Almost everything on this board is rumour and opinion. Maybe people can form their own opinion on a rumour.
The statement from the club itself says they want full control of the cash rather than being told as they are now that it must be used on players only. Income has been massively reduced with diminishing attendances. They have been taking a big loss on merchandise with loads of last seasons kits still available at a fiver when the club would have paid top doller for them. At the moment they cant touch the £120k or so that fans have given to Viqi as it is ringfenced for new players or improved contracts. Its obvious to snybody with one eye that the club want the fans to give them the money directly so they can use it whatever way they want.
It's called blind faith mate. There's probably some people out there still think Jimmy Fool & The Charlatans were misunderstood
Not blind faith at all, and I was one of the people who made sure their wrong doings were kept to the fore as it happens.
I'll say it again, you have NO evidence that the CURRENT custodians of the club are in any way 'desperate' to get their hands on viqi subscribers income, or that they can't pay their bills. Until that becomes a matter of public domain, repeating / copying rumours and making false statements like that will make sure donations fall, and make our current league position and chances of SL rugby even worse.
This is a message board pal based mostly on rumours and opinions. Have you any evidence to prove him wrong ?.
What did you do to try and bring Jimmy to the fore?.
Fine, you keep burying your head in the sand as we all know the club can do no wrong in some peoples eyes. There were rumours everywhere that we were not payng bills and about to go bust when Jimmy and co were in charge and people wouldnt believe it then either until the administrators were called in.
The fact that I called it a rumour means unproven and may or may not be true. Almost everything on this board is rumour and opinion. Maybe people can form their own opinion on a rumour.
The statement from the club itself says they want full control of the cash rather than being told as they are now that it must be used on players only. Income has been massively reduced with diminishing attendances. They have been taking a big loss on merchandise with loads of last seasons kits still available at a fiver when the club would have paid top doller for them. At the moment they cant touch the £120k or so that fans have given to Viqi as it is ringfenced for new players or improved contracts. Its obvious to snybody with one eye that the club want the fans to give them the money directly so they can use it whatever way they want.
It's called blind faith mate. There's probably some people out there still think Jimmy Fool & The Charlatans were misunderstood
Not blind faith at all, and I was one of the people who made sure their wrong doings were kept to the fore as it happens.
I'll say it again, you have NO evidence that the CURRENT custodians of the club are in any way 'desperate' to get their hands on viqi subscribers income, or that they can't pay their bills. Until that becomes a matter of public domain, repeating / copying rumours and making false statements like that will make sure donations fall, and make our current league position and chances of SL rugby even worse.
This is a message board pal based mostly on rumours and opinions. Have you any evidence to prove him wrong ?.
What did you do to try and bring Jimmy to the fore?.
Yes it is a board for discussion and often that means rumours. Whether they're right or wrong is irrelevant to my point. My post was about helping or hindering the club. Serious question - why would a 'fan' re-post something that will result in people cancelling subs, and hurting the club's chances going forward? I'm curious..
@northstar Ive been a fan for over 40 years and would never want to deliberately harm the club. Do you really think that people around the town don't talk about these rumours if they dont appear on a messageboard populated by no more than a few dozen fans. If there is no truth in the rumours this opens up the possibility of people who have evidence to the contrary to put there opinions forward. If they are true maybe it forces the club to put their cards on the table and ask for help
Had I said in the early 90s we were going bust due to paying wages we couldnt afford would you gave called it malicious gossip. If I had posted than Stephen Vaughan was using us to put money through our books would you have called it gossip (until one of the directorsvwas prosecuted ). If I had posted that Ste O'Connor was not actually giving money to the club but loaning it until he got all of his planning permissions from the council would you have called it gossip. If I had posted that Jimmy Rule was telling more lies than a chesting husband and got his minions (now our CEO) to back him up would you have called it gossip.
I really do hope that every bill is upto date, we have plenty of money in the bank and the club put forward details of a donation scheme that is protected from any future possible administration and loads of people (me included) will sign upto and take the club we all love forward. I am not suggesting or hearing anything corrupt at the club but simply that in difficult financial times for everyone the club like a lot of businesses are not exactly thriving We are told by the club that they are financially stable but have heard this many times before when we were actually deeper in debt than you could imagine.
Rumour isn’t rumour with hindsight though is it ? Would you agree that there is a difference in saying “I have factual evidence that proves we aren’t paying bills” and “There is a rumour on twitter that we aren’t paying our bills” ?
If you or anybody else wish to pass on gossip that’s fine but if people respond you can’t really start citing previous gossip that has no bearing on what’s happening now. It’s a completely different situation with a completely different set of people. Or, as in the case of others, start the usual name calling.
@northstar Because that's the nature of the beast the way of the world, fans live for snippets of their team be it good or bad. If you really believe a rumour will ruin the then it should of gone out of existence in the 70's.
We had rumours on here about the club owing mega money and no bills been paid and people like yourself where in up roar but hey presto it was true.
You never answered my question about the Lonely Leader.
@sandgroper you really need to lighten up my friend and realise it is a message board not an etonian debate. Just to clarify quite a few of the your so called genuine contributors and supporters do not even attend the games. If someone thinks something is wrong with at the club they have a right to post that just as your good self swoops in and contradicts every post that says anything negative about the club, why is that ? because it is a fans forum and you have the right to just as others do. It is up to James to moderate the board and allow posts to stay nobody else.
Problem is once something is posted anywhere, shared a couple of times (Usually by the same person or group of people) & then read in different places it is for some crazy reason then deemed to be fact, even if it is completely made up. After a few comments the OP then get quoted as facts to further the discussion. Happens on here quite often.
Down the rabbit hole people go...
I would happily pay into a new scheme if they come out with a plan to get rid of the millstone of the stadium build another smaller one as runcorn linnets and Sheffield have
@richard-richard it cost the linnets 250000 for there stadium so if we went in with the football club who also wanted to leave the stadium I’m sure a suitable site could be found we only need 5/6000 capacity stadium same as York’s is grants would be available and the council would love to build houses on stadium.
it was supposed to be a community stadium and when opened had a gym ,hairdressers,social club providing teams of darts snooker pool etc a home so it helped the community now it’s offices and we feel like interlopers on our own stadium batley own their own ground are doing well Sheffield excited yesterday with theirs and Featherstone fans rebuilt there own every weekend !! Things need to be looked at we pay rent on a 13000 stadium we will never fill or take money from I’m just saying maybe need to look for alternatives
I understand what you're saying and would love that to happen.
I just don't see where a new stadium could be built and who would pay for it.
@richard-richard well maybe the land for sale near West Bank sports ground ? Obv we would try and gain grants or football club could gain fa grants as runcorn linnets did they had fan work parties of weekends like fev did and helped with cost by sponsoring there own seats bricks etc to gain more funding use the viqi money as then if we actually own something we are safer than in our current guise of owning nothing except our name .just think we need to think out of the box the fans would be on board to help and work on something of our own rather than for the council