The "Match Day Experience" I want is to see is 17 players giving their all for 80 minutes for Widnes and winning games. Not bothered about pre-match or Post match entertainment unless it is the youngsters gaining experience.
Its what we have been saying for many a season now but as you know it never happens. We need a complete clear out including our CEO. until we get rid of the the past we will never do anything. The poor attendence on Sunday will be nothing to what lies ahead unless thing happen and the clear out commences. So what if we get hammered all next season as long as the effort is there and all the stagnant players have gone then we can only then re build, otherwise its downhill all the way.
Would like to know what the attendance actually was yesterday: from my view in the South Stand I thought the North was light by at least 500 from a standard Championship attendance. South seemed quiet too, even with 50 or so Batley fans who sang all match!
There is no way they will go for a mass clearout because they probably couldn't find 10-12 players. The question for me is can we get 4-5 quality players to make a difference and is the coach good enough to get the best out of what we have got?
Would like to know what the attendance actually was yesterday: from my view in the South Stand I thought the North was light by at least 500 from a standard Championship attendance. South seemed quiet too, even with 50 or so Batley fans.
Attendance not given which says enough.Probably 1800/2000.
Attendance not given which says enough.Probably 1800/2000.
And on a day with no Premier League/England Football either....but I suppose there is nothing to play for so a casual supporter would want to spend their £22 (bit steep?) elsewhere at the minute....
Looking on the pitch, Halifax were very poor in the last full season, they finished 8th, now they have put together a team in 3rd. So it can be done with the right decisions made.
If you think that Will Tilleke looked ready for the battle you must have had a better view than me! We haven’t enough forwards – end of story.
So with your superior view why did he not look ready for battle ? One of the most bizarre quotes ever.
I think part of the disappointment is that we actually got better for a bit between the Toulouse hiding and the Featherstone game, but this was back to the first 6 weeks of the league season; with arguably the best bench we have been able to field for weeks too. As for the matchday experience, it hasn’t ever been that much of an ‘experience’ IMO, if we are playing well and winning more than we are losing then it doesn’t really come into it I don’t think. Let’s face it, since 2016 it has all been downhill really, with occasional good days. Everything now needs to be geared towards a solid end of the season in preparation for next year: one way or another we need to be in the Top 6, whether that is to stay in the 2nd tier or to be in the Play-Offs.
And yet people were far from happy in 2016, when things were great in comparison to now.
No matter what the club do, they can't win. There'll always be something else to complain about.
I think part of the disappointment is that we actually got better for a bit between the Toulouse hiding and the Featherstone game, but this was back to the first 6 weeks of the league season; with arguably the best bench we have been able to field for weeks too. As for the matchday experience, it hasn’t ever been that much of an ‘experience’ IMO, if we are playing well and winning more than we are losing then it doesn’t really come into it I don’t think. Let’s face it, since 2016 it has all been downhill really, with occasional good days. Everything now needs to be geared towards a solid end of the season in preparation for next year: one way or another we need to be in the Top 6, whether that is to stay in the 2nd tier or to be in the Play-Offs.
And yet people were far from happy in 2016, when things were great in comparison to now. No matter what the club do, they can’t win. There’ll always be something else to complain about.
At last you understand.
If you were happy with either the performances of late 2016, or the dross that has been served up since, you might need to call Beat The Scrum!
I think saying the club cant win is setting a pretty low standard. Its true some people will always moan, its all they enjoy doing. But at the moment our group of 5 regular fans is down to just 1, and after that 2nd half im clinging on by a thread!
I think saying the club cant win is setting a pretty low standard. Its true some people will always moan, its all they enjoy doing. But at the moment our group of 5 regular fans is down to just 1, and after that 2nd half im clinging on by a thread!
Who are you referring to ?
If you were happy with either the performances of late 2016, or the dross that has been served up since, you might need to call Beat The Scrum!
In 2016, we were the 7th best team in the country beating Leeds and Wigan away. I would happily take that now.
Attendance not given which says enough.Probably 1800/2000.
And on a day with no Premier League/England Football either….but I suppose there is nothing to play for so a casual supporter would want to spend their £22 (bit steep?) elsewhere at the minute…. Looking on the pitch, Halifax were very poor in the last full season, they finished 8th, now they have put together a team in 3rd. So it can be done with the right decisions made.
Maybe yesterday’s match confirmed our current plight. We are now the new Halifax, a once big club merely becoming vastly irrelevant with small crowds.
Maybe sad but true....
I think part of the disappointment is that we actually got better for a bit between the Toulouse hiding and the Featherstone game, but this was back to the first 6 weeks of the league season; with arguably the best bench we have been able to field for weeks too. As for the matchday experience, it hasn’t ever been that much of an ‘experience’ IMO, if we are playing well and winning more than we are losing then it doesn’t really come into it I don’t think. Let’s face it, since 2016 it has all been downhill really, with occasional good days. Everything now needs to be geared towards a solid end of the season in preparation for next year: one way or another we need to be in the Top 6, whether that is to stay in the 2nd tier or to be in the Play-Offs.
And yet people were far from happy in 2016, when things were great in comparison to now. No matter what the club do, they can’t win. There’ll always be something else to complain about.
The 2 are incomparable.
In 2016, many Widnes fans were blissfully unaware that their club was being bled dry by some smooth talking lowlife from Hull.
This year, the club is operating on a shoe string budget, the unfortunate consequence of above.
It’s thirty odd years since we won anything, we have been on the slide as a club for a long time due to chronic financial mis-management in the 1980’s. Don’t get me wrong the 80’s were a brilliant time to watch us from a fan perspective but since then we have been paying for the club’s buying players they couldn’t really afford. We then followed that up employing the wrong people for the jobs. They ranged from ex-players and willing amateurs to professionals who weren’t fit for purpose. With hindsight, when the club need management that could have perhaps saved or at least improved the situation we had people who would have struggled to run a corner shop.
Of course there were exceptions and there were a number of great servants at the club but wanting to make thing right and actually doing it are poles apart and the people with the club at heart were bailing water out of the leaking boat at best.
Having had a little rant, I have to say the club (and in general most clubs below the. ‘Big 4’ as we used to say) haven’t been helped by the way the game in general has been run. The game is set up now for large human beings to run at each other until one side makes a mistake. Ah for the days when Saints turned up with Murphy and Tommy Bishop or Swinton turned up with Gowers and Fleet of Barrow with Tommy Brophy or Leeds with Hardisty and Hepworth or Salford with Watkins or Gill or Keith Fielding …..
It’s not Widnes on the slide, it’s the game. I stood on the terrace when we played Workington in the early 60’s and the following Friday the Weekly News had a picture of the club house end and a caption that read ‘lowest crowd since the war’ - there were somewhere between 1300 - 1400 at the match. Yet 20 odd years later we were the World Champions and had some pretty respectable crowds (not least when we beat Wigan to win the League.
The game needs a makeover - scrap the Sky thing, go semi- pro if needs be and then build a solid platform - kids, grassroots etc and look at returning to a full professional set up when we have reached the point of kids (nationally ?) coming through the system into the adult game. Let’s hope the overhaul takes place and the proposed review comes up with something sensible and sustainable.