Basics, Our pack is very poor, one of the worst packs in the league. Lyons is no improvement over Gilmour. Tompkins tackles but offers nothing going forward from 9.
We badly missed Shane Grady, who is often our go to when we are struggling. Matty smiths leadership was also needed today.
Were a very average team in a very average league.
Fair result tonight
Only watched what I could at home with a very poor Our League signal but I’m shocked that we were unable to adapt to playing on a small, muddy pitch against much bigger players. Cant take anything away from Dewsbury though, their players wanted to win.
Is it too late to reconsider our predictions of finishing league position (from the old board) ? I said 7 or 8th but now I'm going for 9th.Even worse team than I envisaged.
widnes look like a part time squad, there is just nothing about this mid table at best side
They are a part-time team.
Paulie xx
We did miss Smith, Grady and Cross IMO.
That being said, Edge is a better option than Spedding for me and I think the time has come for the ditching of the experiment of Lyons to FB.
Bring Dugdale onto the bench v Haven and Swinton.
But none of these things address the core problem of a lack of size up front, sadly.
widnes look like a part time squad, there is just nothing about this mid table at best side
They are a part-time team.
Paulie xx
i know, but there has been a lot better part time teams than this mob. there just seems no potential what so ever. they played like 1 of those teams that happy to be mid table or survive every year
An ordinary game played in poor weather conditions which Dewsbury with their bigger forwards were better equipped to handle. Their kicking game was also better than ours and they deserved their win.
We are going to struggle to progress beyond mid table status if we can’t add a couple of big, aggressive forwards. We missed Smith and Grady tonight but injuries will always be a part of the game and you can never expect to be at full strength.
The club have to be careful. There’s only going to be goodwill to them for so long.
The recruitment has been dire on the whole.
Say it every week it is incredible the lack of size we have, incredible. There has to be players out there who can be better than what we have now.
Surprised at the Our League comments, my feed was faultless!
That said, it only have me a clearer view of possibly the worst second half of rugby I’ve seen for years! So frustrating when we eventually had a couple of chances and blew them! Then again, on a dry day, on a full size pitch we will destroy Dewsbury. We were simply overpowered throughout the game by the size of their players. Christ, Finn was as big as our second rowers! Didn’t help that we forgot to pass the ball and instead went ‘one out’ to try to beat them at their best game.
For me, the absence of Smith was huge as we needed him to steady the ship and guide the gameplay. Some people need to get over the DR with wire as without them today we would have been much, much worse off.
Grady tonight but injuries will always be a part of the game and you can never expect to be at full strength.
and work commitments
Very disappointing result tonight but not totally unexpected. The game was a rerun of the London game exactly. Non existent goal line defence & our forwards bullied once again resulting in us repeatedly bringing the ball away from our own line & having no territory. I fear this will just be repeated game after game especially away from home & at home against Leigh, Featherstone & Toulouse etc as our forwards are bullied. They are trying but are being overpowered as they are not big enough & as in previous recent seasons they will tire after a few weeks of this. Fans need to be realistic. It is not the dual registration players fault we lost, we are an average team that will end up with 24 points this season at best. Grady & Smith were missed but we were comprehensively beaten in every department & doubt their presence would have produced a victory. It is going to take time for us to be a top five side & if the fans start deserting the cause it will not happen.
I switched off with 10 to go but its not effort they’re lacking, it’s quality and consistency
I could never have played anywhere near their level but as a fan I am frustrated with the lack of ideas they have when they’re in a game against anyone who has a go
We could do with a couple of big wire forwards to help us out, and get them on at least a months loan, with a agreement that they can go back to wire, if they have a injury crisis, and need them back. Because at the moment, I don’t know, but I presume, we get told we can have the wire players , about2- 3 days before a match, which means they can only train with us on the Saturday before the match, so they won’t be used to playing with our regular players, and which doesn’t help when it comes to putting moves together on match days.
Everyone picking holes in the games we lose, and completely forgetting the good stuff we've done in games we've won.
Of course a disappointing night and result. I fear we will always lose games on fields like that because our lads just aren't used to playing on it. If you do all your technique work on the mats and on the iPitch you're going to be soft in poor conditions, which is what we were last night.
People very selective on the dual reg, I think it's great we can rely on them to send 2-3 across when we need it. One poster saying bin off the dual reg and another saying Ellis Robson was our best player!
Some truth in the above but so far we have beaten a side that will probably be relegated twice and a team that will finish in the bottom half at home. Next week we will beat Whitehaven at home, probably convincingly. But will be just be papering over the cracks?