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(@viking25)
Prominent Member

Absolutely correct decision, build a team from now in a resurgent championship. we should do ok with the squad we have and maybe with a few additions could be play off possibilities do we want to get promoted, I am not sure because I think SL will be going through some radical changes and I feel we are better off in a stable environment as others have alluded to the championship may be the new northern union

I don’t think that’s acceptable.

As a club play offs should be minimum expectation.

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Posted : 20/11/2020 7:05 pm
(@scouseviking55)
Reputable Member

I agree with our starting 13 & 4 interchanges with a low amount of injuries we should be playoffs minimum this season

 

i could accept less if we are injury ridden but if we’ve got our main team week in week out it would be unacceptable for any less

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Posted : 20/11/2020 8:51 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
Noble Member

If we lose aspiration as a club then we will just dwindle into a Halifax or worse situation of 1500 crowds.

Yes we need to be responsible but we also need to aspire to be successful and show that we are serious to be a top Championship team at the very least.

Being sustainable and responsible but finishing 5- 7 in the Championship won't cut the mustard for very long.

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Posted : 20/11/2020 11:22 pm
(@ditton-donkey)
Noble Member

Absolutely correct decision, build a team from now in a resurgent championship. we should do ok with the squad we have and maybe with a few additions could be play off possibilities do we want to get promoted, I am not sure because I think SL will be going through some radical changes and I feel we are better off in a stable environment as others have alluded to the championship may be the new northern union

I don’t think that’s acceptable. As a club play offs should be minimum expectation.

wht I meant was winning the play offs, we should aim to be in the play offs but would probably need acquisitions to win it

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Posted : 21/11/2020 7:01 am
(@ceejay1)
Reputable Member

To do that we would also need more money.   The club can only get so much from the supporters especialy in the current climate.   We need a "rich" benefactor to take us back to the top again.  I doubt there are many in this area now.

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Posted : 21/11/2020 9:28 am
(@sandgroper)
Noble Member

In effect the club are building a business from a low base. That requires careful attention to expenditure and investment to make progress. Lashing out on 'big' signings is one way that could succeed or fail disastrously, which is more likely tbh.

If someone would step up like Beaumont and is willing to chance his arm, and his money, the club would probably welcome him, but would still need to secure the club from failure.

Rebuilding will take time and patience, but that doesn't equate to 'lack of ambition' it equates to common sense!

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Posted : 21/11/2020 12:32 pm
Former Chemic
(@former-chemic)
Honorable Member

Well said sandgroper but, sadly, common sense isn’t as common as you might hope.

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Posted : 21/11/2020 1:38 pm
(@mick-george)
Prominent Member

In effect the club are building a business from a low base. That requires careful attention to expenditure and investment to make progress. Lashing out on ‘big’ signings is one way that could succeed or fail disastrously, which is more likely tbh. If someone would step up like Beaumont and is willing to chance his arm, and his money, the club would probably welcome him, but would still need to secure the club from failure. Rebuilding will take time and patience, but that doesn’t equate to ‘lack of ambition’ it equates to common sense!

If the club have no ambition then they have failed from the offset. We should be more than able to compete with anyone in the championship even without a money man. Our crowds are excellent plus the VIQI and not splashing out dead money on assistants, assistants assistants and made up positions in the club. Add to this the huge directors salaries and the cost of running a very over rated academy, then we should be in a strong position to compete.

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Posted : 21/11/2020 1:57 pm
(@sinbad)
Noble Member

Not competing in Super League is one thing but then you read about trying to compete in the second division.I know we have fallen but fallen that far ?

 

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Posted : 21/11/2020 2:05 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
Noble Member

Anything outside the Play-Offs is an outright failure in this league.

Let us not forget that previous coaches have been sacked even though they qualified for them.

York had a successful season in 2019 even though they clearly have a smaller fanbase and nowhere near the same level of VIQI support. Sheffield brought a really small number of fans to Wembley compared to us, but beat us hands down. They are lucky to get a 4 figure gate.

 

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Posted : 21/11/2020 3:14 pm
 MT
(@mt)
Noble Member

I don’t expect us to get promoted at the end of the 2021 season but I would consider missing out on the playoffs as a below-par effort. With our fanbase and the quality of players in the squad (even if it currently lacks depth) we should be finishing in the top five.

And then improving on it in 2022 and pushing for promotion.

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Posted : 21/11/2020 10:43 pm
(@royston-vasey)
Honorable Member

In effect the club are building a business from a low base. That requires careful attention to expenditure and investment to make progress. Lashing out on ‘big’ signings is one way that could succeed or fail disastrously, which is more likely tbh. If someone would step up like Beaumont and is willing to chance his arm, and his money, the club would probably welcome him, but would still need to secure the club from failure. Rebuilding will take time and patience, but that doesn’t equate to ‘lack of ambition’ it equates to common sense!

If the club have no ambition then they have failed from the offset. We should be more than able to compete with anyone in the championship even without a money man. Our crowds are excellent plus the VIQI and not splashing out dead money on assistants, assistants assistants and made up positions in the club. Add to this the huge directors salaries and the cost of running a very over rated academy, then we should be in a strong position to compete.

I thought Finney said they want to be in SL but that the primary aim this season is to get a good season’s performance ‘under their belt’ and not risk getting hammered financially. They are building the foundations for a solid future. That sounds like ambition and common sense to me.

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Posted : 22/11/2020 6:03 am
(@frankg)
Noble Member

I thought Finney said they want to be in SL but that the primary aim this season is to get a good season’s performance ‘under their belt’ and not risk getting hammered financially. They are building the foundations for a solid future. That sounds like ambition and common sense to me.

Finney did say that the Club's ambition was to get back into SL through performances on the pitch and that 2021 was too early. I agree that this shows ambition and common sense. Compare that to Bradford, where there must be a question as to their future if they are immediately relegated, in view of their ongoing (and continuing) financial difficulties since 2012. Similarly, would Beaumont walk away again and leave Leigh in financial meltdown, although Leigh do seem to be building a team capable of competing in SL.

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Posted : 22/11/2020 9:21 am
(@sandgroper)
Noble Member

Tbh Leigh look more likely to make a fist of it than Bradford or Toulouse. Getting the chance might be difficult though! DB's past performances might go against him.

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Posted : 22/11/2020 9:51 am
PaulieWalnuts
(@pauliewalnuts)
Honorable Member

Give this a thought...

 

If Covid never happened, under the guidance of Sheens, we may have been taking our place in SL, next March, anyway.

We'll never know. Would we have refused entry, because we are 'not ready' yet? I very much doubt it. Okay, the funding would have been a lot more for a naturally promoted team, but I think we should have applied, just to show SL that we haven't gone a way.

 

Paulie xx

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Posted : 22/11/2020 10:35 am
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