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 J.Mc
(@j-mc)
Eminent Member

If the rolls where reversed and Widnes was the superleague team that's the result we would all expect to see. Against a full strength Widnes side it would of been a lot closer, made some nice moves, made some bad mistakes, unlucky going over the line on two occassions, the youngsters gave their all and our forwards not fit as yet, we ARE a part time team end of

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Posted : 10/04/2021 1:29 pm
Steve
(@steve)
Honorable Member

“Part-time underdogs heavily defeated by profession SL team.”

The headline doesn’t come close, but that’s all many will see! Having seen that game today it gives me a lot more confidence in Finnegan. Owens at 13 and Tyrer in the pack actually worked quite well and to watch them as a team you wouldn’t guess that we had less than half our players on the pitch or in their intended positions!

Breaking the game down, we played some lively rugby at times with some lovely runaround moves. Today definitely gives me more confidence than I felt after the game last week! I think all our lads gave all they had today. Can’t ask for more really.

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Posted : 10/04/2021 1:29 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
Noble Member

Last 10 minutes were really bad.

Shame really because for 60 mins or so it wasn't a disaster.

Like it or not, we were playing Salford. Mid-Table Championship or not, it still grates to lose by 68-4 to them, for me anyway.

Hopefully reinforcements for Dewsbury next week and 2 points.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/04/2021 1:30 pm
 J.Mc
(@j-mc)
Eminent Member

Totally agree

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Posted : 10/04/2021 1:31 pm
(@geoffw)
Prominent Member

 

I agree it is not good. You have to look at the situation though. Circumstances have left us with no experienced hooker, forwards missing through injury & covid, very young part time  players pitting themselves against  huge men in the likes of Pauli Pauli. A youngster making his debut. A prop making his debut so unfamiliar with plays etc & being  so short of forwards we started with a centre at second row. I just hope the Covid outbreak does not spread further & we have no more injuries from this game.

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Posted : 10/04/2021 1:34 pm
(@farnworth-viking)
Noble Member

It was disappointing today, but with the team we had out, and a lot of players playing out of position, it wasn’t surprising. We also had 4 tries disallowed at least 2 of them looked like tries.
I imagine in the second half, being well behind, the players were saving themselves for next week and trying not to get injured.
Hopefully with Baker and Farnworth back next week and players who have just come back, having a run out this week, will be fitter next week, and we will beat Dewsbury

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Posted : 10/04/2021 1:41 pm
 Dan1
(@dan1)
Honorable Member

I predicted 50 - 6 when the squad was announced,  so slightly worse. Salford are a bottom 4 SL side but we are now mid table Championship.

We will have to try and get our heads around it, Widnes fans are used to success, either the older ones from the late 80's or the slightly younger ones from winning the Championship grand final under Neil Kelly or the cup at Blackpool. We will be competing with the likes of Batley and Dewsbury for 6th to 8th place this year.  We will also be relying on Warrington to lend us some academy lads as the squad is too small and at some point in the season we will run out of players.

It takes me back to the mid to late 90's when the stadium was being rebuilt, tough days. Let's get the fans back in and rebuild, without an academy or reserve side it will be tough, but our time will come again.

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Posted : 10/04/2021 1:43 pm
(@rlnewbie)
Trusted Member

Our supporters have to realise we are at present a mid table championship side at best. Some patience has to be in evidence. Hopefully we can improve our financial situation going forward but IMO we need to develop our relationship with the local amateur sides to ensure we continue to get new players coming through now we have lost the academy. Otherwise I cannot see us progressing. At least we are trying to play expansive rugby when we have the ball in hand to entertain our fans.

 

Everyone laughed at me when I said pre season that 5/6th finish would be a realistic finish. Crazy the blinkers that some people have on, we look really un fit in my opinion. Attack looks great granted but defence wins games.

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Posted : 10/04/2021 1:49 pm
(@spelly)
Noble Member

I hoped you'd have got a lot nearer than that against a team with a  P2, got stuffed 2, record in SL, and.................

Naturally, I'm disappointed at the result.

Spelly.

 

 

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Posted : 10/04/2021 1:49 pm
(@spike-island-90)
Honorable Member

I am not judging the coach until the end of the season but for me, any team that can offer a spine of Owens, Craven, Smith, Tomkins and Baker, should be more than competing at championship level.

We need more from half backs.

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Posted : 10/04/2021 1:52 pm
(@viking25)
Prominent Member

I am not judging the coach until the end of the season but for me, any team that can offer a spine of Owens, Craven, Smith, Tomkins and Baker, should be more than competing at championship level. We need more from half backs.

Smith’s done nothing since he’s been here. If he doesn’t step up in the coming games I’d put Lyons/Owens in the halves with Craven.

He doesn’t look remotely fit enough.

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Posted : 10/04/2021 4:06 pm
(@tonyvikinggee)
Estimable Member

Lets put this into perspective. We travel to West Wales, they have a man sent off and we manage to put up a score of 58 - 4. We then go to Salford, get 68 points shipped past us and Salford barely got out of 1st gear, but its ok because we passed it along  the line a few times and it looked nice!. Shipping nearly 70 points is not acceptable.

Looking at this team it should be doing better, But it seems if we miss a couple of players we can almost excuse any kind of performance. Today was not good enough. We have not put in a single good performance this season. West Wales were right there with us until they lost a man and fell apart, and we still were not all that impressive against a weak league 2 team

Whitehaven, until they dropped the ball with the line begging and we raced up the other end to score just before the break we were pretty poor. They are then left chasing a game in horrendous conditions, which both teams managed poorly.

Newcastle.... Not good enough at the end of the day, We get nilled in the second half and look clueless and incapable of managing a game.

The we get today.

How are we looking at any of our previous games and saying, things look promising for the season to come? Our next 3 games are Dewsbury, Batley and Swinton. I doubt we win all three of them.

Get to june and July and i dont see where our points come from at all.

I didnt expect to win today, but we should have been within the 20-30 point range not the 60-70 point range

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Posted : 10/04/2021 4:17 pm
(@jaws123)
Eminent Member

Look let’s get real. I don’t think anyone on here thought we had a chance against them really let’s face it they are a super League team that play rugby day in and out we aren’t plus we have a load of injuries all ready. It just shows now how far we have to grow as a team and as far as I can see we are in a decent position with the youth we have. I thought tilleke did well and hill.

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Posted : 10/04/2021 5:02 pm
(@frankg)
Noble Member

You would expect a SL club to put 68 on an amateur team, but not a so called Championship contender.

It will be interesting how we can come back in our next games against Dewsbury, Batley and Swinton. Spelly must be dreaming of a Swinton win!! Those three games will likely define our season - and level of support when crowds return.

Hopefully, we will have a full squad and perhaps a couple of loan players available.

I agree that the young players have shown promise, but the problem we face is that if a young player shows talent throughout the season, they are likely to be picked up by clubs offering full-time contracts.

 

 

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Posted : 10/04/2021 5:15 pm
(@chrisrowbottom)
Active Member

Vikings supporters got a reality check today as to how far the club has sunk.A threadbare squad  , supplemented with Academy players is not the place a club of our size  and fan base deserve.The Directors need to invest or support will fade away.

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Posted : 10/04/2021 5:20 pm
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