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Loan Deals from the Super League

(@geoffw)
Prominent Member

Bradford have 5  loanee SL players for tonight's crucial game away at Halifax. Three from Leeds including our old boy Walters  one from Wakefield & one from Huddersfield. Surely there should be a limit on how many players can be recruited in this manner? 

Halifax would have been favourites to win this game in my eyes but now Bradford are my favourites. This is a club that has been in financial trouble many times splashing the money about again albeit short term.

This is making a mockery of the game. Surely three loan players would be a suitable maximum unless a club could not raise enough fit players. 

What do others think about this?

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Topic starter Posted : 10/04/2023 12:24 pm
(@sunny)
Noble Member

Can't disagree with you. It is a farce. Situations like this could falsify true league positions and have a serious effect on promotion/relegation, win/lose bonus payments and the like.

I would go so far as to restrict loan players to 2 max.

As you suggest, it could also - more importantly - mess with our Prediction League choices!!!

 

 

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Posted : 10/04/2023 4:08 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
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Sometimes too many loan players can be counter-productive in the sense they aren't used to playing with one another.

I think 3 at any one time should be the max, that being said.

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Posted : 10/04/2023 6:08 pm
(@geoffw)
Prominent Member

Predictably Bradford won just on goal kicks 26 to 22. I hope Halifax complain to the RFL about this & ask other clubs to support them. Two SL props & 1 second row on loan transforms a pack  all of whom have played a number of games this season in the SL. A complete joke that needs sorting fast. I agree with Sunny maximum number of SL players should be restricted to 2 unless the squad is absolutely decimated & cannot field 17 fit players irrespective of their playing position.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/04/2023 8:49 pm
(@geoffw)
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I have just checked all the 5 loan players which are 3 props one second row & 1 centre Roberts who we had on loan from Leigh last season.  f Widnes had those players it would put us only behind  Featherstone in Squad strength.

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Topic starter Posted : 10/04/2023 9:09 pm
(@vikingsinbradford)
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I'm sure it said in the pre-match conversation that 3 of the loanee's were to cover for three Bradford players that were absent due to being banned!! That shouldn't be allowed. Replacements should only be permitted due to injury. 

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Posted : 10/04/2023 9:49 pm
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(@sunny)
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Posted by: @geoffw

Predictably Bradford won just on goal kicks 26 to 22. I hope Halifax complain to the RFL about this & ask other clubs to support them. Two SL props & 1 second row on loan transforms a pack  all of whom have played a number of games this season in the SL. A complete joke that needs sorting fast. I agree with Sunny maximum number of SL players should be restricted to 2 unless the squad is absolutely decimated & cannot field 17 fit players irrespective of their playing position.

 

If this happens, and the club have not been able to sign - not loan, but sign - players to complete their playing roster for the game, ought they not to forfeit the league points?

Halifax have been "robbed" out of two points this evening - as have I and many others out of  a point in the Prediction League....and their players out of a winning bonus if written into their contracts,

 

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Posted : 10/04/2023 11:51 pm
(@sandgroper)
Noble Member

Problem is that we are seen (from above) as not really part of SL and really just somewhere for promising players to develop or stay fit.

I would agree with sensible limits on loan numbers, certainly if club players are being disciplined. Just replacing the bad lot with bigger and better players makes no sense if the Championship is to be seen as a functioning division for clubs fighting for promotion. 

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Posted : 11/04/2023 10:21 am
(@gpo1971)
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The limit should be 2. Otherwise, Championship clubs might as well plow their money into paying for 13 SL loan players to get promoted.

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Posted : 11/04/2023 10:25 am
Former Chemic
(@former-chemic)
Honorable Member

Definitely need to limit the number of loans - as anyone who watched Eckersley last Friday realises the difference that a fulltime and fit SL player can make.

Agree with GPO that a maximum of 2 is fair.

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Posted : 11/04/2023 6:28 pm
(@viking-man)
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it might be 2?  Bradford are dual reg with Leeds and 3 of those played - isn't the maximum 5 dual reg players?  So it could have been x3 dual reg and x2 loan players.  

The ruling should be limiting the overall players that aren't yours.  Bradford really are kidding their fans by winning games with other clubs players.  For the need to go and get players on loan from other clubs as well as dual reg with Leeds is not developing the club much.  

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Posted : 12/04/2023 9:00 am
(@mick-george)
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Bradford have every right they are playing to the rules something we never do even on the field of play ie slowing the game down, staying down when injured to gain a free kick etc etc. Not something I like but they are the rules and everyone but Widnes plays these rules.

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Posted : 12/04/2023 10:21 am
(@viking-man)
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Posted by: @mick-george

Bradford have every right they are playing to the rules something we never do even on the field of play ie slowing the game down, staying down when injured to gain a free kick etc etc. Not something I like but they are the rules and everyone but Widnes plays these rules.

Correct, every single club in the country play to the rules, except Widnes.  🙄 

Bradford do have every right, but what do they do when the parent clubs want those players back?  What do they tell the squad players who are dropped as soon as a dual reg option becomes available?  How will those players perform knowing they won't play next week when that happens?  Make for a happy squad?  Make for consistent training sessions?  They will come unstuck with so many players who aren't theres.

Widnes have never slowed a game down?  Ever?  Which teams have been good at this at our place this year when we have not done it?  

 

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Posted : 14/04/2023 11:24 am
(@mick-george)
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Posted by: @viking-man

Posted by: @mick-george

Bradford have every right they are playing to the rules something we never do even on the field of play ie slowing the game down, staying down when injured to gain a free kick etc etc. Not something I like but they are the rules and everyone but Widnes plays these rules.

Correct, every single club in the country play to the rules, except Widnes.  🙄 

Bradford do have every right, but what do they do when the parent clubs want those players back?  What do they tell the squad players who are dropped as soon as a dual reg option becomes available?  How will those players perform knowing they won't play next week when that happens?  Make for a happy squad?  Make for consistent training sessions?  They will come unstuck with so many players who aren't theres.

Widnes have never slowed a game down?  Ever?  Which teams have been good at this at our place this year when we have not done it?  

 

Toulouse 

 

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Posted : 14/04/2023 2:42 pm
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