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(@a-cape)
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Who is the hooker we are signing then?

Bringing Cam Smith out of retirement!

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Posted : 11/04/2021 7:35 am
 RB
(@rb)
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We are in a mess.

We have a 26 man squad of which including those who have gone away and come back (Shane Grady, Adam Lawton etc.) 16 came through our Academy. Dereck Pike and Leon Price in Our League Commentary kept talking about our Academy but that has gone now. Daniel Hill, Ollie Brooks are unless players who have left our Academy return are likely to be the last from that model. The Club spent more than a decade working on a model / system for the which the benefits would only accrue after a considerable time. That was ended mainly due to gross mismanagement by our old board (James Rule) but also due to a lack of support from Super League (not wanting to fund Category 1 Academies outside of Super League in the Heartlands) but we are where we are.

It would nice to know what the new model will be. You can run category 3 Academies without Super League Funding in conjunction with local colleges. Salford run a Category 3 Academy. I think Newcastle loaned  Hooker Connor Burgess from Salford Cat 3 Academy. I think Widnes Vikings have / had a Girls effectively Cat 3 Academy in conjunction with Cronton College. Warrington have a Cat 1 Academy with Super League Funding but also a Cat 3 Academy in conjunction with Priestly College (in Warrington).

The Club will do what they will but as a fan it would be good to know what our new model will be then hopefully we can get behind it. York and Fev with their models conceding 26 and 34 against what are likely to be 2 top Super League sides this year was in my high view highly creditable. To concede 68 against that Salford Side, lets call a spade a spade is diabolical.

 

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Posted : 11/04/2021 10:05 am
(@sinbad)
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You lost me at models but have to agree about conceding 68.No matter if it's part time v full time,one on one tackles in RL is basic stuff.Very weak team this.

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Posted : 11/04/2021 10:52 am
 CJ91
(@cj91)
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Swinton putting up a fight against Wire: 8-26 with about 12 mins left.....interesting comparison.

Watching the post-match with Finnigan, he said nearly everyone should be available for Dewsbury. If we lose to them, it will be panic time. I think we will win though.

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Topic starter Posted : 11/04/2021 1:06 pm
(@viking25)
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Swinton putting up a fight against Wire: 8-26 with about 12 mins left…..interesting comparison. Watching the post-match with Finnigan, he said nearly everyone should be available for Dewsbury. If we lose to them, it will be panic time. I think we will win though.

There’s no excuses next weekend- we’ve got to win and it’s got to be convincing. Fed up of hearing excuses.

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Posted : 11/04/2021 1:25 pm
(@sinbad)
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I think we will win though.

I don't

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Posted : 11/04/2021 1:27 pm
 CJ91
(@cj91)
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I think we will win though.

I don’t

Well at least we know what's coming. Big Pack. Sykes and Finn with the kicking game. We've been caught out twice by them before, surely we should be well prepared to deal with them, with the injuries and covid looking better.

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Topic starter Posted : 11/04/2021 1:51 pm
 MT
(@mt)
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You can include me in the expecting a win category. Finn at 37 is comfortably the younger of their two halfbacks and they’ve already lost a game against Whitehaven this year. With most of our players back anything other than a win would be a big setback for us.

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Posted : 11/04/2021 1:57 pm
 Dan1
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Dewsbury on their own small pitch with a big pack are a different proposition.  On a bigger, faster artificial surface at home, against Finn and Sykes aged 37 and 39 respectively we should win.

The scores this weekend for Swinton, York and Featherstone against Wire, Wigan and Hull who are all top 6 SL sides puts our 68 nil drubbing against Salford into perspective. Defence must do better. Comes down to a combination of fitness and attitude.

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Posted : 11/04/2021 2:54 pm
(@ditton-donkey)
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Hopefully we will have nearly a full squad to select from, only Tomkins and cook ? Unavailable

reckon we will win this one

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Posted : 11/04/2021 3:16 pm
(@vikingkev)
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Hopefully we will have nearly a full squad to select from, only Tomkins and cook ? Unavailable

bad news I’ve heard Lawton is fit to play next week

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Posted : 11/04/2021 3:50 pm
Gofyn
(@gofyn)
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How many players can you keep happy in just one team. If someone does not play with no reserves etc. They won't be happy. I really don't see how we could have 19 20 quality players and 5 kids. The whole game is a mess. In Australia they feed off the amateur teams connected to clubs

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Posted : 11/04/2021 4:47 pm
 Dan1
(@dan1)
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Warrington and Saints manage with big squads. 20 good players isn't enough as you will almost always have more than 3 out injured or suspended. The 5 or 6 young lads can go out on 2 week loans to teams like North Wales and Barrow in league 1 for game time. At the moment we only had 20 players for the latest squad.

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Posted : 11/04/2021 6:53 pm
 MT
(@mt)
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I think it is a shame for us as well as the wider game that the reserve league had to be suspended. Gave us cover options who maybe weren't up to first team standard but had some experience and also had the potential to give good amateur players an opportunity to prove themselves as having the potential to play at this level.

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Posted : 11/04/2021 6:57 pm
(@spideylizard)
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I think it is a shame for us as well as the wider game that the reserve league had to be suspended. Gave us cover options who maybe weren’t up to first team standard but had some experience and also had the potential to give good amateur players an opportunity to prove themselves as having the potential to play at this level.

Do we have any desire to run a reserve team though. We binned off the academy easy enough

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Posted : 12/04/2021 10:10 am
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