Covid Vaccine – Yay or Nay?

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  • #6488
    sunny
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    My second jab due next Saturday has now been deferred to a later date – bummer….

     

    #6493
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    As said, the most vulnerable, elderly or infirm in our society should be protected. Those least at risk should be charged with carrying on our way of life. It’s an absolute joke that pubs and restaurants have suffered whilst shops, gyms and schools haven’t. That’s 100% NOT a scientific argument. It’s too late for this way of thinking anyway. We are now saddled with everyone’s way of life being compromised for at least a generation. For what? No-one can provide the stats. It is what it is. Welcome to a shallow future. I’ll bow out now, good luck everyone.

    Are you seriously believing that shops, gyms and schools haven’t suffered? If you think that you’re just wrong.
    How do you propose those least at risk should carry on, without going near anyone who is vulnerable, elderly or infirm? Does that mean doctors & nurses should live at hospitals and not be able to go home, or to shops for food etc? Just not feasible unfortunately.

    #6510
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    Beginning to think that some people would be happy for all us over 60s should just be left to die as we are a hindrance to their way of life. Younger people are now being affected in greater numbers by the new variance, it is not only the number of death that worrying it is how many people of all ages are being hospitalised.

    #6655
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    My first jab booked for Monday.

    Spelly.

    " ---- and then on the eighth day, God created Rugby League."

    #6659
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    Very much tongue in cheek Spelly but it’s a good job the appointment doesn’t clash with a Swinton game 😉

    #6670
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    Very much tongue in cheek Spelly but it’s a good job the appointment doesn’t clash with a Swinton game 😉

    Touché mate!

    Ironically, the vaccination is at the gym where I go every day in “normal” times, but has been closed because of the pandemic.

    Stay safe all of you.

    Spelly.

    " ---- and then on the eighth day, God created Rugby League."

    #6718
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    Been today, and everyone was just brilliant!

    The soldier who booked me in, the guy who took my details, and the very pretty young lady, who did the biz with the needle.

    The NHS is an absolute jewel, and makes you proud to be British!

    Stay safe one and all.

    Spelly.

     

     

    " ---- and then on the eighth day, God created Rugby League."

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    Beginning to think that some people would be happy for all us over 60s should just be left to die as we are a hindrance to their way of life.

    Quite true.

    I’ve just read through these posts and a lot has changed from the first post on this thread to the last. I hope that perceptions have also changed. It’s a sad indictment of society that it seems that ‘opinion’ is now considered a valid argument to ‘fact’. What I have found sadder still is that charity and charitable donations to the likes of Captain Sir Tom are often driven more by a desire for elevated social status, than out of charity itself. Surely the most charitable act at the moment is to have the vaccine for the safety of others yet, sadly, many turn their backs and mock.

    Currently, I believe that almost 90% of UK deaths have been elderly. I am appalled that some younger people use this as an excuse for them not needing the vaccine. Add to this the standpoint that people with underlying medical conditions are also taken as already dying and not considered ‘real’ deaths from the virus and it seems that many deem it acceptable for these groups of some 10 million plus to die. Yet when relations of young people are lost, it’s not their fault. Can’t be their fault. It’s the government’s fault.

    I have no doubt that at the end of this the pitchforks will be gathered and bonfires lit. But will the protest marches be remembered as spreading events? Student parties on the streets? Social media posts on injecting microchips or DNA from babies? No, none of that will be remembered as it’s just nonsense spread by the nameless, the faceless and the spineless.

    So for those who think they shouldn’t have the vaccine, when in the future someone rattles a tin under their nose, before they make sure their mates see them throw a pound in, let’s hope they just give a thought to elderly lady with the underlying medical condition that they once bumped into in Asda and give a thought to how her family felt when they mourned her loss. These are not numbers, these are people.

    These opinions are my own, sometimes.

    #6908
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    Beginning to think that some people would be happy for all us over 60s should just be left to die as we are a hindrance to their way of life.

    Quite true. I’ve just read through these posts and a lot has changed from the first post on this thread to the last. I hope that perceptions have also changed. It’s a sad indictment of society that it seems that ‘opinion’ is now considered a valid argument to ‘fact’. What I have found sadder still is that charity and charitable donations to the likes of Captain Sir Tom are often driven more by a desire for elevated social status, than out of charity itself. Surely the most charitable act at the moment is to have the vaccine for the safety of others yet, sadly, many turn their backs and mock. Currently, I believe that almost 90% of UK deaths have been elderly. I am appalled that some younger people use this as an excuse for them not needing the vaccine. Add to this the standpoint that people with underlying medical conditions are also taken as already dying and not considered ‘real’ deaths from the virus and it seems that many deem it acceptable for these groups of some 10 million plus to die. Yet when relations of young people are lost, it’s not their fault. Can’t be their fault. It’s the government’s fault. I have no doubt that at the end of this the pitchforks will be gathered and bonfires lit. But will the protest marches be remembered as spreading events? Student parties on the streets? Social media posts on injecting microchips or DNA from babies? No, none of that will be remembered as it’s just nonsense spread by the nameless, the faceless and the spineless. So for those who think they shouldn’t have the vaccine, when in the future someone rattles a tin under their nose, before they make sure their mates see them throw a pound in, let’s hope they just give a thought to elderly lady with the underlying medical condition that they once bumped into in Asda and give a thought to how her family felt when they mourned her loss. These are not numbers, these are people.

    Bravo, nail on the head.
    One point you forgot to add though is that the people on social media who spread all the mis-information that profess to know it all, but couldn’t be any further from the truth and have an IQ to prove this & furthermore they completely miss the irony of sharing their “knowledge” via big tech which can actually track you!

     

    #6972
    Royston Vasey
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    Beginning to think that some people would be happy for all us over 60s should just be left to die as we are a hindrance to their way of life.

    Quite true. I’ve just read through these posts and a lot has changed from the first post on this thread to the last. I hope that perceptions have also changed. It’s a sad indictment of society that it seems that ‘opinion’ is now considered a valid argument to ‘fact’. What I have found sadder still is that charity and charitable donations to the likes of Captain Sir Tom are often driven more by a desire for elevated social status, than out of charity itself. Surely the most charitable act at the moment is to have the vaccine for the safety of others yet, sadly, many turn their backs and mock. Currently, I believe that almost 90% of UK deaths have been elderly. I am appalled that some younger people use this as an excuse for them not needing the vaccine. Add to this the standpoint that people with underlying medical conditions are also taken as already dying and not considered ‘real’ deaths from the virus and it seems that many deem it acceptable for these groups of some 10 million plus to die. Yet when relations of young people are lost, it’s not their fault. Can’t be their fault. It’s the government’s fault. I have no doubt that at the end of this the pitchforks will be gathered and bonfires lit. But will the protest marches be remembered as spreading events? Student parties on the streets? Social media posts on injecting microchips or DNA from babies? No, none of that will be remembered as it’s just nonsense spread by the nameless, the faceless and the spineless. So for those who think they shouldn’t have the vaccine, when in the future someone rattles a tin under their nose, before they make sure their mates see them throw a pound in, let’s hope they just give a thought to elderly lady with the underlying medical condition that they once bumped into in Asda and give a thought to how her family felt when they mourned her loss. These are not numbers, these are people.

    Possibly the best post written on any of the incarnations of the site. Very well said and absolutely spot on about the genuinely thoughtless acceptance of opinion as a valid counter argument to fact, not only on Covid but across all topics of conversation and debate in general.

    #7000
    sunny
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    My second jab due next Saturday has now been deferred to a later date – bummer….

     

    Now re-arranged for 5th March.

     

    Good.

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